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FlyKingfisher 23rd Aug 2010 06:06

Airbus A320 Flap Settings
 
Note: Not a professional pilot.

I wanted to know what the normal flap setting for the A320 is on take-off. I believe it is Flaps 1 (does it mean 1+F as indicated on the EICAS?).

Can Flaps 2 be used for take-off? Does airport elevation play a role? I know that the a/c weight has to be limited at high-altitude airports.

I also wanted to know what flap setting would used eg. at Leh (Ladakh, India) where the airport elevation is 10,682 ft (3,256 m).

Also, what is the flap retraction schedule when using a) Flaps 1 and b) Flaps 2 (if applicable)?

If Flaps 1 is used, I presume the speed tape will indicate only S speed and not F speed after take-off. Am I right?

Artificial Horizon 23rd Aug 2010 07:12

Flap 1, 2 and 3 can all be used for departure as per your company perf manual. Flap 1 will give you 1+F. If you use Flap 1 for departure only S speed is displayed. If you use Flap 2 or 3 then S and F speed will be displayed. Clean up is from Flap 3 straight to Flap 1 when using Flap 3 for departure. At my airline Flap 2 is standard, Flap 3 used on short runways, Flap 1 used on runways 2500m or longer.

FlyKingfisher 23rd Aug 2010 07:59

Thanks very much for your reply.

brit bus driver 23rd Aug 2010 08:25


At my airline Flap 2 is standard, Flap 3 used on short runways, Flap 1 used on runways 2500m or longer
Does that take account of obstacles in the climb out? Performance is about more than runway length you know...

And S speed is only displayed once the flaps are moved from 3 (or 2) to 1, but I'm sure that's what you meant.

eez 23rd Aug 2010 08:52

according to operating limitations, max rwy altitude 9200ft.

FlyKingfisher 23rd Aug 2010 14:15


Originally Posted by brit bus driver
Does that take account of obstacles in the climb out? Performance is about more than runway length you know...

And S speed is only displayed once the flaps are moved from 3 (or 2) to 1, but I'm sure that's what you meant.

Doesn't climb-out performance/obstacle clearance depend on V/S? Doesn't a higher flap setting give a steeper climb rate? Tell me more about this.


Originally Posted by eez
according to operating limitations, max rwy altitude 9200ft

What do you mean? Can you elaborate?

FlyingStone 23rd Aug 2010 14:41


Originally Posted by FlyKingfisher
Doesn't a higher flap setting give a steeper climb rate?

Most aircraft have the highest climb gradient when fully clean (i.e. no gear or flaps/slats extended). Flats and slats are used however to reduce takeoff roll, especially on jets/large turboprops of which none (as far as I know) are certified for flapless takeoff.

DeltaGolf 23rd Aug 2010 14:51

Originally Posted by eez
according to operating limitations, max rwy altitude 9200ft



that's not true, 9200ft would be the "normal" condition for operating.

If you want to operate ABV 9200ft (which is completely normal), you have to follow some SPECIAL Ops Procedures, FCOM 2, High Altitude operation.. just a few more things to do in the cockpit...

and also, you said the airports is 10 thousand or so, you do NOT need to takeoff or Land with the OXY Mask on..

FlyKingfisher 24th Aug 2010 06:06


Originally Posted by FlyingStone
Most aircraft have the highest climb gradient when fully clean (i.e. no gear or flaps/slats extended). Flats and slats are used however to reduce takeoff roll, especially on jets/large turboprops of which none (as far as I know) are certified for flapless takeoff.

So, climb rate isn't dependent on flap settings, is that what you mean? And whoever talked about flapless takeoff... :confused:

fredgrav 24th Aug 2010 09:49


So, climb rate isn't dependent on flap settings, is that what you mean? And whoever talked about flapless takeoff...
Hi FlyKingfisher,
the higher the flap setting, the lower the climb gradient ... basically because the angle of climb is lower, then the height gain x distance is lower. Considering the GRADIENT as being the ratio Rate of Climb/ TAS, and ROC = TAS*GRAD here you understand how an increase in climb gradient also give an increase in Rate of Climb ...

Hope that helps,
fregdrav


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