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divinehover 22nd Aug 2009 08:19

Still sticking with a stupid yoke I see. Really pointless in a modern airliner. Looks very 'yesterday' compared to the A380, A350 and B787.

Denti 22nd Aug 2009 08:35

The 787 has a yoke too.

And allways be aware that it is not a new type, it is just a new variant, therefore a certain commonality is a must.

Harry Burns 22nd Aug 2009 08:38

Problem for Boeing with a redesign would be that, as soon as you would bring in some new stuff, it would look like an Airbus.

HB

gengis 22nd Aug 2009 09:31


Still sticking with a stupid yoke I see. Really pointless in a modern airliner. Looks very 'yesterday' compared to the A380, A350 and B787.
I prefer the yoke anyday. Not being able to cross my legs nicely or have a pull-out tray table is little consequence to me.

HURZ 22nd Aug 2009 10:26

Autobrake selector
 
Iīm not so happy with the position of the autobrake selector.
It should be in a position where BOTH pilots can easily reach it...

I remember on the 400 we had it just below the Cpts ND and the position of the selector was changed to the aisle stand.

TopBunk 22nd Aug 2009 10:51

Hurz

If both pilots can reach the gear lever, surely they can both reach the less critical autobrake selector?

For me, it is logical in its new position.

Harry Burns 22nd Aug 2009 16:44

Keep in mind that the cockpit of a 747 is not thaat wide, so reaching each others side is not so problematic compared to other wide body types.


HB

HURZ 22nd Aug 2009 21:06

Jup, you are right that the flt deck is not so wide. However the it can be very handy when both pilots can get to the A/B selctor easily without doing acrobatics and even without looking at it. Letīs see how reality will be when we get it in 2010 (or maybe later:hmm:)

stilton 23rd Aug 2009 01:32

Best location I saw for the Autobrake selector was on a 742 where it was installed on the overhead just above and to the left of the landing lights.



Easily reachable by the Captain with his / her right hand without haviing to bend over / lean forward.

B-HKD 23rd Aug 2009 01:36

Check your PMs HURZ!

NSEU 23rd Aug 2009 07:03


At long last they have redesigned the gear lever. No more heart stopping moments to select gear up when replacing the F/O's MCDU by the look of it . . .
??? I'm sure you'll find that you can remove the MCDU with the lever in OFF.
It won't accidentally go to UP unless you push the override button.

muduckace 23rd Aug 2009 08:06

Just an observation of pilots who prefer the airbus "Phallus", "joystick" control. MDC produced yolks with a beefy hands on on feel. Boeing produced a slightly smaller yolk.

Maybe a french thing to produce a delecate yolk as they are used to handeling (a300/a310) and then realizing that only one hand actually produced results that drove them to the side stick.

Hell, this is all humour, I have flown MDC, Boeing and Airbus sims. Enjoy MSFS and realize that human interface to operating an aircraft is all the same.

Having said that, given the scenario that the other pilot is incapacitated, the airbus sidestick allows a single pilot better control, having the ability to use the other hand to perform the other necessary functions that the pilot not landing the aircraft would usually perform.

Just an observation from a line "flight mech" and avionics tech.


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