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Badmachine 27th Jul 2008 18:47

GPS Based Navigation Accuracy Question
 
The Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS) claims accuuracy of a few meters vertically and laterally. Are airspeed and aerodynamic/atmospheric factors known to alter GPS based navigation accuracy to a large degree?

Thanx.

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kijangnim 27th Jul 2008 18:51

Greetings

No, airspeed and/or aerodynamic dont affect the WAAS, LAAS, DGPS, and GPS. :ok:

411A 27th Jul 2008 19:46


No, airspeed and/or aerodynamic dont affect the WAAS, LAAS, DGPS, and GPS.
Yep, generally the facts.

Now, lets look at one specific GPS navigation unit installation, the King KLN-89B, installed in my private aeroplane.
Enroute navigatiuon accuracy, RNP 5.
Terminal, RNP 1.
Approach accuracy, +/- nine meters, laterally.

Now, this unit is eight years old, new(er) ones do better.
Quite a bit better.

Fact.

The only reason that the Europeans have not embraced GPS is the old familiar tune....'not invented here'.

Badmachine 27th Jul 2008 22:33

So if an autopilot flight plan intends for a plane to be at a certain location vertically and laterally at a given moment during enroute flight somewhere within WAAS coverage, one can expect that their aircraft will acheive this placement within the stated WAAS accuracy?

Thanx.

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reynoldsno1 27th Jul 2008 22:37


atmospheric factors known to alter GPS
ionospheric refraction is the lagest contributing error factor to GPS - and augmentation, such as WAAS etc, exists to help correct this. For aviation use, enhanced integrity is just as important, and augmentation such as WAAS etc, exists to provide this.

point8six 28th Jul 2008 06:33

411A- that nice Mr. Clinton allowed us to embrace GPS at no cost! What a Gent! Maybe we'll let you embrace our Galileo in turn (don't wait up too long though!), but just maybe they'll find a way of taxing it by then!

kijangnim 28th Jul 2008 09:50

Greetings
Lets not forget that GPS was created and deployed for and by the US military during the cold war mainly to guide US missiles over Moscow, all paid by tax money, is there any ROI or CBA when military is involved?
Whereas Galileo is a civilian project and unfortunately civilians have bad habits such as ROI and CBA.:}

NavMonkey 28th Jul 2008 11:18


So if an autopilot flight plan intends for a plane to be at a certain location vertically and laterally at a given moment during enroute flight somewhere within WAAS coverage, one can expect that their aircraft will acheive this placement within the stated WAAS accuracy?
No, that's not a reasonable expectation. The WAAS accuracy relates only to the accuracy of the position solution out of the WAAS box, known as Navigation System Error (NSE). You then have to add the Flight Technical Errors (FTE) which relate to the ability of the aircraft to follow the WAAS guidance. Generally for WAAS, FTE dominates NSE.

ZEEBEE 28th Jul 2008 12:33

GPS accuracy is based on a number of factors not the least of which is the refraction of the radio propogation through the ionosphere.
Fortunately, the corrections supplied by the various services (WAAS and the like) do a pretty good job of taking out the effects partly because it is assumed that the ionosphere is largely homogenic and what affects the receiver will also be similar at the base stations that provide the reference signals for the correction.
Fortunately, the whole GNS system has had some remarkably quiet ionospheric conditions over the last couple of years to optimise the models and refine the positions of the Ground station network on which the whole thing depends.
When and if the sunspot activity increases again, the disturbance of the ionosphere will degrade the accuracy of the positioning calcs and you may well see some "outliers" that exceed the limits that the equipment specification provides.
Therefore, be aware that the current accuracy that we now enjoy, may not necessarily be provided in the future.

balsa model 28th Jul 2008 17:04


411A- that nice Mr. Clinton allowed us to embrace GPS at no cost! What a Gent!
- point8six
Actually, it was Mr. Reagan.
Mr. Clinton authorized dropping of the scrambled, extended accuracy portion of the signal. Especially useful if you are in an area that doesn't have access to WAAS and the like.

TeachMe 28th Jul 2008 18:06

I believe the position error of say 5 meters X/Z and 9 meters Y stated above is a statistical model in which the position is calculated from the various solutions.

One way of looking at it in a stationary unit is like a shooting target. With a stationary shooter and one shot on the target, you can not estimate the centre, with 10 you can make a very rough guess, with a thousand you can be quite close, and with an infinite set of shots you can nail down the location of the centre of the target to the point where Mr Heisenberg gets involved.

Now, with GPS add to this that the satilites are orbiting, and the plane is flying and you get an idea of how difficult things can be and how your accuracy is always limited.

This gets at one reason that GPS units can measure the rise of a volcanic dome in milimeters, get only give it in meters on an airplane.

Now for the original question, GPS works based on the time stamps of the signal, based on an atomic clock on the satilite, sent by the satilite. If that signal for some reason took more or less time to reach the reciever then the accuracy would be altered.

If that was a constant situation then the actual result would be constantly wrong, if it was transient, then the situation would be transient.

As c is different in different mediums, I would not be surprised to learn that results varied based on the atmospheric density, but I would expect that to be in mm over a day and not more. Ionospheric refraction, as noted above, would cause the signal to take a longer route to the reciever and thus result in a differnet solution.

Hope that give some background. And to those who know more, sorry if I am a bit hazy about some parts of it, I sold them about 10 years ago for Garmin, but things have cahnged and I have forgotten much.

point8six 28th Jul 2008 19:50

My understanding (and memory) is that Ronnie allowed restricted use of GPS to civilians, but Bill signed a Presidential decree allowing full usage to all and sundry (circa 1995?).

twistedenginestarter 28th Jul 2008 22:18

Do we really need WAAS any more? Surely with SA switched off you're getting enough accuracy to do a precision approach?

reynoldsno1 28th Jul 2008 23:45

It's the integrity monitoring that's equally, if not more important, than the accuracy for precision approaches.

balsa model 29th Jul 2008 17:39


point8six:
My understanding (and memory) is that Ronnie allowed restricted use of GPS to civilians, but Bill signed a Presidential decree allowing full usage to all and sundry (circa 1995?).
Timeline as I remember...
ok, ok... it's mostly pasted from Wikipedia:
# In 1978 the first experimental Block-I GPS satellite was launched.
# In 1983, after Soviet interceptor aircraft shot down the civilian airliner KAL 007 that strayed into restricted Soviet airspace due to navigational errors, killing all 269 people on board, U.S. President Ronald Reagan announced that the GPS would be made available for civilian uses once it was completed.
# By 1985, ten more experimental Block-I satellites had been launched to validate the concept.
# On February 14, 1989, the first modern Block-II satellite was launched.
# In 1991 Gulf War 1, soldiers were asking families to send them commercial handheld GPS receivers, since the Army wouldn't/couldn't give them to all who wanted.
# In 1992, the 2nd Space Wing, which originally managed the system, was de-activated and replaced by the 50th Space Wing.
# By December 1993 the GPS achieved initial operational capability.[71]
# By January 17, 1994 a complete constellation of 24 satellites was in orbit.
# Full Operational Capability was declared by NAVSTAR in April 1995.
# In 1996, recognizing the importance of GPS to civilian users as well as military users, U.S. President Bill Clinton issued a policy directive[72] declaring GPS to be a dual-use system and establishing an Interagency GPS Executive Board to manage it as a national asset.
# In 1997, my humble self bought his 1st receiver.
# In 1998, U.S. Vice President Al Gore announced plans to upgrade GPS with two new civilian signals for enhanced user accuracy and reliability, particularly with respect to aviation safety.
# On May 2, 2000 "Selective Availability" was discontinued as a result of the 1996 executive order, allowing users to receive a non-degraded signal globally.

Up until full elimination of scrambling on May 2, 2000, the
instantaneous horizontal plane position error was expected to be less than 100 meters 95% of the time. After that date, we're down to 20 meters. There are very few applications where this raw error cannot be reduced by some form of averaging.

DC2 slf 29th Jul 2008 21:09

GPS and ATC Altitude
 
GPS altitude is close to true. ATC at flight levels is based on barometric altimeters set to arbitrary (760 mm 29.92 in) reference pressure. This puts all aircraft on the same basis.

Thus GPS reported altitude should not be used to control FL, in the US or anywhere else.

john_tullamarine 29th Jul 2008 23:45

There are very few applications where this raw error cannot be reduced by some form of averaging.

Considering that much surveying is now performed with DGPS installations ... with claimed accuracies down to a centimetre or so ... the system's capabilities are not to be sneezed at ...

411A 30th Jul 2008 00:15


Considering that much surveying is now performed with DGPS installations ... with claimed accuracies down to a centimetre or so ... the system's capabilities are not to be sneezed at ...
Thank you John, and for all the folks who scoff at GPS, and it's accuracy...well, it is very very good, and with my private airplane, is superb, in every respect.
WAAS...or no.
All courtesy of the US taxpayer.

I would say, thanks are appreciated, and you all are welcome.
The USA leading the way...as usual, for precision navigation.
Not forgeting, of course, the Brits, who provided fully automatic landings, so long ago.
And RADAR.
And no, not forgetting the French, with the autoland capabilities on the Caravelle, with Lear-designed autopilots.
The latter lost in history, but 'tis a fact.

Dale Hardale 30th Jul 2008 00:26

On the subject of GPS indicated true altitude: - for a given indicated flight level, can anyone tell me how this GPS indicated true altitude increases or decreases with change in latitude. :confused:

gearpins 30th Jul 2008 00:43

gps alt
 
Here is how I understand it.GPS sattelites orbit with reference to the center of the earth.that is at a fixed orbital distance.Thus they can pinpoint an a/c position quite accurately in space.But when it comes to the same a/c ht above the earths surface,its only as good as the model of the earth stored in its memory.That happens to be WGS84.Earth not being a perfect sphere does not help either.terestrial gps recievers as used in a car will have a local map of the city stored and position is super imposed on that map.
:)
hence the alttitude discripency.No relevance to change of lat/long


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