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go-si 24th Jan 2008 19:15

Its all about Energy
 
The plan must be to dump as much energy as possible and then concentrate on survival ... though apart from that i suppose there can't be much advice as every crash is bound to be different.

Computer George 24th Jan 2008 19:39

I always wondered: if you had to ditch your plane with engines mounted under the wings, would it be better to pull the plane up very fast, as to lose the engines? This would make the chance of flipping nose over less. Of course, engines breaking lose also has impact on the wings, the force of pulling up can have 'some side effect' and if you not lose all engines, the plane may be out of balance. But still wondering...

ChristiaanJ 24th Jan 2008 20:21


Originally Posted by Computer George
... so as to lose the engines?...

On Concorde, we never had that option...
Tank trials showed it was not totally impossible to ditch a Concorde, but in practice I think everybody was happy we never had to demonstrate it in real life.

clmixon 25th Jan 2008 02:27

Crashing Nicely
 
My first post....

I always thought the rule was,

When a prang (crash) seems inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object inthe vicinity as slowly and gently as possible.

Chris

Heli-phile 25th Jan 2008 02:57

V1
 
Dont start that up again!! please God
Stick to the SOP's or we are all in a world of hurt.

(But I know what you mean!!);)

SYYHerring 27th Jan 2008 23:41

A great man one said "fly it as far into the crash as possible".

lomapaseo 28th Jan 2008 14:51


A great man one said "fly it as far into the crash as possible".
From my read and listen to CVRs of survivable crashes that's exactly what they do. I have never yet heard anything like "Oh look there's an orphanage let's try and miss it"

PlasticPilot 29th Jan 2008 09:06

Crash when you can get rescued easily
 
From an airport worker and PPL point of view, if I had a long runway with a long parallel grass area, I would chose the runway for a very simple reason: firemen will have access there easily.

By any emergency the position themselves along the runway, and follow the plane, entering runway using the taxiways.

I don't know how good would the firetrucks be in an unprepared grass area, particularly if wet and muddy.

nosefirsteverytime 1st Feb 2008 11:32

Odd, I was sure I'd made a post here before, to confirm that large Airport fire tenders are run from hard surfaces unless absolutely necessary, because once stopped, they will not be able to be moved from the grass without assistance. Twas said to me by a firefighter on a visit across the ramp from work.

Anyway, that's all I can say on the matter.


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