747 Whats the shortest rwy you landed?
 

I was looking at the NOTAMS for one of our diversion's giving an LDA of 2250m ... looking at our generic landing distances we could legally land at MLW, but feels extreemly uncomfortable.

Whats the shortest runway and your landing weight you have taken a 744 into?

747 landing
 

I think SAA has landed at FAGG with a 744. rwy 11/29 2000m x 45m.
at 250t. I may be wrong. A 747 - 200 went in there on occasion.

Classic to:
St Maarten LDA 7053ft 2150m
Filton LDA 6972ft 2125m
Bournemouth 6463ft 1970m

757 on 1500m at Bahrain with wip beyond :eek:

Maybe not quite what you were looking for, but SAA landed a retiring 747 at Rand airport (FAGM) for permanent display at the museum there. It's only 1712 Mtrs long at an elevation of 1671 Mtrs! There is a video of it here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_ny...elated&search=

The European 747 taking off from Bournemouth has been linked several times before on this site but here it is incase you've never seen it. This was after the runway extension, so BOH 08/26 was measuring a massive 2,271m by then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feGZ4l5fk4Q

This was a freezing cold wet and windy day, the flight was one of two charters by Bath Travel to JFK for XMas shopping and as you can tell, it was full to capacity....

We are lucky at BOH that we have the Qatar 747SP-21 (VP-BAT) based here so often see it going in and out.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=490778

Still look up every time it goes past :)

There used to be scheduled 747 service by SAA into FAGG during the December holidays. Stopped quite a while back though. Last saw a 744 at George about 5 months back, apparently when there where Jet A1 shortages at ORTIA, one stopped on its way from FACT- to FAJS to fill up for it's long haul to EGLL.

Quite awesome to watch one of them land at FAGG with its 2000m runway...

CBG 1892m [6207'] :{

Interesting replies, thanks!

The generic landing data show's <1900m with Max autobrake and MLW s feasible, and considerably less using the manual braking tables.

Just feels very uncomfortable ..

Anyone used Max Auotbrake on the 744? I've only used 4 but would imagine Max is like dropping an anchor?

(PS : Yeah ... CBG/Cambridge UK @ 1892m ... but would imagine at just over ZFW not up to MLW ... mostly 747's in there are for re-fits at Marshalls).

.... and if you have steel brakes, then you'll be needing to get the aeroplane off the runway ASAP as all 16 tyres will blow their fuse plugs.
The services would also be a good idea.
Not sure about carbon brakes but I think they don't radiate as much heat ... ?

Wasn't there a Saudi Air Force 747 who mis-identified an airfield in India a few years ago and ended up landing on something a bit similar to Guernsey's massive 1400m ?
I seem to recall the plan was to remove as much as possible from it to then get it out ....?

Yes, the Saudia mistook a military field near Chennai.

A couple of years ago Qantas retired a 742 to Longreach for the Qantas Founders Museum. RW 04/22 dimensions 1,936/30 m, ELEV 191 m. It was probably an ISA+20 day - no problem with the length but turning the aircraft around took more than an hour!

More recently Qantas first 707-238 also retired to Longreach.

sometimes it is the turnaround
 

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Sometimes if you miss your turning it spoils your entire day. 36.4 tonnes payload, contingency plus 2hrs, landing into 15kts at ISA+15

That's me without a tinnie in my hand.

The runway was too short to takeoff from, so they had to remove the interior to use the airports 2nd (longer) runway.

Mutt

Short field 747 operations
 

1992 / Flew in and out of KSBA Santa Barbara, California with a 747-257 for maintenance C check and paint, a ACMI contract to Saudia by Air Atlanta. Runway was 5,900 feet long, sea level, light wind. I remember I stopped easy within 2/3rds of runway. Based on this, I would say ok to go to a 5,000 feet-long runway. Of course plane was empty and minimum fuel. Incidentally, we flew out of there with enough fuel to Newburgh, NY (4.5 hrs flight) on our way to Jeddah, again no payload.
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At light weight, flaps 30, a 747-200 is a "Vref+5" of some 128-130 KIAS. Autobrakes on MED, you can probably stop on about 3,000 feet of dry concrete, and still impress the folks by a smooth landing. My flying is just average, but as for landings, people say "looks like the guy has done this before...!!!"
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Not to impress you, it is not airmanship, these old 747s are nice landing birds...
Never had a bad one even with 6,000+ hrs in them...
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One small correcton Bel Arg, A light weight 747- has a flaps 30 ref speed of 118 knots! I t will easily stop in 4000 feet with med brakes.

In contrast, a light weight 747 will get off the ground in 3000' Thats fun!

For RPT ops, Wellington NZ [NZWN/WLG] at 1936m, but the LDA of only 1814m.

We were using the fabulous B747-SP38 withe the D4 engines at C2 thrust.

G'day ;)

BA take their 747's into Cambridge (EGSC) for cabin work. LDA on 23 is 1747m, or 1635m on 05.

Air NZ took a 742 into NZWN in 1999 (?) for the opening of the new terminal.
The low pass over a test match at Athletic Park got more publicity :}

Willit Run /
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Correct, 30 flaps Vref is 118 kts at 180 tons...
Generally, BOW for our 747-200s is about 175 tons...
I doubt anyone flies with only a few drops in the tanks... so shall we make it 190...?
190 tons, my table, same as yours says 121... add 5 kts for Granny = 126 as Vth...
I am not with LH... cannot fly within 1 knot, sorry... too senile nowadays.
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