Descend rate vs weight
Hey guys,
Question:Same aircraft, why is the descend rate at const.speed at light weight f the aircraft higher than that of a heavier aircraft?? I have no clue, Thanks OD |
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What about the weight vs lift relationship? Higher weight requires more lift :8 Now slightly deeper... What is, in the given case, the difference between the lighter and the heavier craft? Yes dude, weight. To maintain a given airspeed (IAS), you will therefore need more lift for the heavier craft (climbing, level, descending). More lift? Yes, increase your AOA. And produce more drag. Result is a lower ROC during the ascent, lower airspeed (or MN or FC) in the cruise, and a higher ROD pointing the nose to the Planet. (much brain storming in this heat ;) ) |
2 a/c identical type similar atmospheric conditions but with diff weights...
lets assume both plan a descend at idle thrust and say 250 kts..... they both are like gliders at this point(discount the residual thrust at idle pwr).the heavier one say achieves a rod of 2500fpm. now the lighter has to increase its rod to maintain 250kts. instead if it tries to maintain 2500fpm its speed would wash off to something lower.:8 WHY: because a component of the wt vector cotributes towards the speed............:rolleyes: hope that helps |
gearpins has it the right way around.
at a fixed speed and fixed power setting, a lighter aircraft will have a greater rate of descent than a heavier aircraft, due, as he notes, to the weight component along the flightpath contributing to "thrust". |
Olendirk,
I agree with gearpin and Scientist versions but in other words my answer is: Because an aircraft is restricted to maximum speed during descent, the heavier aircraft has to maintain a lower rate of descent than a lighter one, otherwise it would overspeed. Remember, heavier aircraft have a greater momentum and this weight driven momentum will produce a greater speed in in a vertical dive. Therefore, a heavier aircraft has to start its descent earlier than a lighter aircraft because it has to maintain a shallower descent. In other words, a lighter aircraft can descent later and quicker than a heavier aircraft because it can maintain a greater vertical descent profile without overspeeding. Hope that answers yours question. TFCM :ok: |
Another way to look at the same problem
Best glide speed, (max distance for min hieght, not to be confused with min ROD, which will normally be min clean) is a function of wieght, that is why gliders carry water ballast. They can go faster for the same hieght lost against distance. Now, given the aircraft descend at the same speed ( assuming it is above best L/D) then the heavy aircraft is in fact closer to its (higher) best glide speed, so is more efficient. If you change the descent speed, to say best L/D the lighter A/C will always win. In the triple 7, ( esp the 300 or er) a heavy A/C can be a bi***h to get down if you get slowed down, 250 is close to best L/D and you need boards to keep any sort of profile. |
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