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Pegasus77 17th Mar 2002 14:13

Glueball: I am surprised that the local procedures at EHAM didn't make you land with the 60kts as a crosswind, guess the controllers must have slept that day <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Jetset320 17th Mar 2002 17:08

Thanks for that Pegasus.. .. .So far nobody has mentioned an airline who's SOPs do not allow landing above a certain wind speed. Only ground ops seem to be the problem.. .. .Is your company's croswind limit (in SOPs) a fixed limit or a demonstrated limit?. .. .Ekola

Pegasus77 18th Mar 2002 02:59

In the SOP they are fixed.

Jetset320 18th Mar 2002 03:23

Can I ask you what company you fly for and what crosswind values you use for A320 (T/O and landing)?. .. .It would be interesting to compare notes with other '320 operators.. .. .Ekola

Pegasus77 18th Mar 2002 03:31

Xwind in all three types is 20kts for an autoland.. .Manual landings are allowed up to 30 kts, where there is an exception on the A321, on which the automatic approach is only allowed up to 25 kts crosswind.. .. .And drop me an email for the company <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 17 March 2002, 23:37: Message edited by: Pegasus77 ]</small>

Jetset320 18th Mar 2002 03:41

It is good to note that your limit is more conservative than the manufacture's 33kts gusting 38kts for manual landing.. .. .Do you have any maximum wind limit (from any direction?). .. .Ekola. . . . <small>[ 18 March 2002, 00:12: Message edited by: Ekola ]</small>

Pegasus77 18th Mar 2002 04:42

What do you need all this info for exactly? Why not phone up some colleages at A320-operators?. .I thought Air Malta was operating Lufthansa-319s... maybe you could copy some SOPs from them?

Jetset320 18th Mar 2002 14:18

I'd like to know this info for the reason that I intend to raise this subject with management and I'd like to know, prior, what other companies have a) as crosswind limits and b) if they have a policy of a maximum wind (from any direction) for operations, as this does not exist in our Policies.. .. .Yes we had two of your 319s last summer on dry lease. This year we are getting 2 320s from GECAS.

Pegasus77 18th Mar 2002 17:21

Ok..... .. .No max wind limit, and already told you about headwind and crosswind limitations..... .Max tailwind for TO and LDG 10kts, 5 kts on contaminated rwy.. .. .And then there's the max doors operating wind 65kts.. .. .If you need to know more.... just drop me an email.. .. .Glad the 319s didn't get blown away from your beautiful isle!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 18 March 2002, 13:22: Message edited by: Pegasus77 ]</small>

Speedbird48 19th Mar 2002 02:44

Yes, Bookworm, That is exactly what I said. There is no quoted X-Wind limit in the Flight Manual for the Dornier 328J or the DC9 and the FAA does not require that testing is done to define a limit.. .I spent a lot of time last winter trying to find out the limit for the Dornier, on a wet or slippery runway, and the answer came from the FAA certification branch that they did not require the max X-Wind to be tested?? Consequently unless the company defines a limit you are on your own.

Speedbird48 19th Mar 2002 03:27

Yes, Bookworm, That is exactly what I said. There is no quoted X-Wind limit in the Flight Manual for the Dornier 328J or the DC9 and the FAA does not require that testing is done to define a limit.. .I spent a lot of time last winter trying to find out the limit for the Dornier, on a wet or slippery runway, and the answer came from the FAA certification branch that they did not require the max X-Wind to be tested?? Consequently unless the company defines a limit you are on your own.

Speedbird48 19th Mar 2002 04:05

Yes, Bookworm, That is exactly what I said. There is no quoted X-Wind limit in the Flight Manual for the Dornier 328J or the DC9 and the FAA does not require that testing is done to define a limit.. .I spent a lot of time last winter trying to find out the limit for the Dornier, on a wet or slippery runway, and the answer came from the FAA certification branch that they did not require the max X-Wind to be tested?? Consequently unless the company defines a limit you are on your own.

Jetset320 19th Mar 2002 05:25

Apparently it is now required by JAA operators to have a crosswind limit declared in their approved SOPs


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