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Oldie Volvo 12th Apr 2001 00:53

Ferry sectors
 
Its that time of the year again - full out and empty back.

Medium jet - normal Vref around 130 kts. At
very lightweights, Vref anywhere between
115-120 kts. Some old hands use higher than
published Vref whilst utilising published
speeds for Flap schedule.

Any thoughts from you clever QFI types as to
whether a/c is more user friendly when adding
a few knots in such situations or total waste
of time ?

fireflybob 17th Apr 2001 01:44

Cannot see any valid reason why anyone would not want to fly Vref plus the usual wind additives, irrespective of the weight, etc.


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extra 18th Apr 2001 01:07

TOGA, V1, rotate, 25 degrees alpha - yeeeehaaaaa!

Oldie Volvo 19th Apr 2001 12:11

You may find that aileron effectiveness is
somewhat reduced at slow speed depenedant
upon aircraft type - try it next time !

jonno 24th Apr 2001 23:05

I agree!!
I remember an ocassion a couple of years ago, returning to Hong Kong from Japan with an ampty cargo B747-200, very, very light, the winds were from the north, over the hills, quite gusty they were as I remember, we were doing an approach to the IGS Rwy13, as we got close to the initial turning point of the IGS, doing approx. the correct approach, I noticed the pilot flying was having to use FULL aileron travel (thatīs with spoilers as well, on the ī74) and then wait for the roll to result, we sped up a little, as I remember it, it made me so much happier! I will always remember that, Vref plus some, when totally empty and windy, for me!!


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