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330 29th Mar 2001 22:51

"Rules of Thumb"
 
Thought this might be interesting and a bit useful. what rules of thumb do you use or know.

Danish Pilot 29th Mar 2001 23:09

Is it legal...? And is it safe..!

Double your throttle, double your trouble...

2Donkeys 30th Mar 2001 00:13

OK... start with the simple ones ;) Bank angle required for a rate one turn 7+(IAS/10)

-2Donkeys

3 putt 30th Mar 2001 02:41

Rate o' descent req'........1/2 i.a.s
(Ball park for slipping down ils)
or 5x g.s,or autopilot armed

[This message has been edited by 3 putt (edited 29 March 2001).]

Lurk R 30th Mar 2001 05:54

This was asked about 2 months ago and one of the interesting urls was:

http://www.flightinfo.com/html/rules_.shtm

Checkboard 30th Mar 2001 10:50

Have a look at Thumb Rules from Dunnunder & Godzone

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Baggy 2nd Apr 2001 19:30

One cup rice, two cups water...

Dr Feelgood 3rd Apr 2001 01:04

Required rate of climb against climb gradient. Gradient x groundspeed = Required rate of climb.
Ex. 6.6 x 120 = 790 fpm.

ShyTorque 3rd Apr 2001 02:36

No wazzing when the boss is looking.

Oh, and max drift = wind speed / groundspeed in n.m. per minute.

[This message has been edited by ShyTorque (edited 02 April 2001).]

basil fawlty 3rd Apr 2001 04:10

top of descent point- (flightlevel x 3) + 10 miles. eg FL350, (35x3)+10 = 115 miles.
B747 fuel requirements- estimated flight time to destination x 12 (-100), 11 (-200/300), 10 (-400) + your diversion requirement + 2500kg taxi/APU allowance.
These always work out to within a % or so of the computer generated plans value. Nice to know!

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Apr 2001 10:48

If not at half take-off speed by 1/3 of runway length start worrying. If not airborne by 2/3 runway length, abort.

Always assume that anybody flying a Piper or Cessna can't see you.

Never assume that you'll be given anything better than a FIS, no matter how much you beg.

Any aircraft designed in the USA will need the wing re-inforcing for UK approval.

Any aircraft designed in France will need the flying controls strengthening before UK approval.

Any aircraft designed in Germany will need to lose about 30kg before UK approval.

Any military customer will move the goalposts at least once every 2 months before completion of the project.

G

countrybusdriver 3rd Apr 2001 23:43

Remember Green Aircraft get priority at Dublin!

RAFAT 5th Apr 2001 05:31

Another descent one which factors in groundspeed...

Observe groundspeed, add a '0' then half it, this figure becomes your VS for the descent which is commenced at a distance from destination of 3x height:

eg. 23,000' at 400 kts G/S = A descent rate of 2000 fpm commenced at 69 nm from destination. Remember to adjust VS for any increase in G/S during descent, and factor in a few miles to slow down at the end.

Frederic 6th Apr 2001 13:28

Number of bars on sleeve times seniority times aircraft weight times MSF (*) devided by number of wives square rootet by number of children is "what he takes home"

*MSF: Management Suckup Factor

The Nr Fairy 6th Apr 2001 13:51

A real rule of thumb :

On a half-mil chart, your thumb measures roughly 10nm.

It easily follows that a thumb is 5nm on a quarter-mil, and 1nm on a 50thou.

DoctorA300 6th Apr 2001 15:46

Fairy, Big Hands, havnīt you http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

- The longer the logbook entry, the simpler the fault.

- If it ainīt fĪ%%&d, donīt fix it

- If it works, itīs not allowed

- If itīs grumpy, argumentative and rude, Itīs your freindly ground engineer.

Sorry, Iīm not a pilot, so I thought I would contribute some from the dark side.
Brgds
Doc

EDDNR 7th Apr 2001 20:54

Bus journeys from the airport to hotel are measures in "Beiraes" (pronounced "beers"). A one beirai journey is about 12-15 mins, a two beiraes trip 25-35 mins and I don't know of any 3 beiraes journeys due to BALPA regs on our distance from slip hotels.

A two beiraes trip on a weekday evening can be equivalent to a one beirai on a Sunday.

Once day I'll fathom it out and post the exact conversion for beiraes > minutes > kilometres here on PPRuNe.

Rod

[This message has been edited by EDDNR (edited 07 April 2001).]

A Very Civil Pilot 8th Apr 2001 22:07

If your hat blows off, its too windy to fly.

E120 10th Apr 2001 15:16

Descent planning III:

When performing a CDA, ATC gives you "Trackmiles" to go:

groudspeed : 60 = X,
trackmiles : X = Y,
current altitude : Y = descent rate.

For example, assume a groundspeed of 360 kts at FL150 and you have 30 NM till touchdown;

360 kts : 60 = 6 NM/min,
30 NM : 6 Nm/min = 10 min,
FL150 : 10min = 1500 fpm.

(Adjust for changes in groundspeed off course)

Luftwaffle 10th Apr 2001 16:05

Start your rollout half of your bank angle before your desired heading.
Start your level off ten percent of your roc/rod before your desired altitude.
Halve your groundspeed then multiply by ten for a good rod on the ILS.
Very quiet passengers are sick, scared, sleeping or dead.


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