Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

B737NG FANS 1/A - upgrade to be Europe compliant

Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

B737NG FANS 1/A - upgrade to be Europe compliant

Old 29th May 2021, 20:55
  #1 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hilton, Sheraton or Marriott
Posts: 1,802
B737NG FANS 1/A - upgrade to be Europe compliant

Iím way out of my depth; looking for advice please.

We operate a private, US-registered B737NG & spend a lot of time in Europe. The aircraft and crew are certified and equipped for FANS 1/A operations.

In Europe we can only log onto Maastricht (EDYY) and London (EGTT) plus the NAT control centres. As of 24 August Ď21 weíre going to lose the ability to be able to log onto Maastricht.

Our FMS is 13.0 and weíre upgrading to 14.1 in the next month.

Can someone please give some guidance as to what we need to do, in terms of hardware or software to be able to access and log-on to all the European control centres using CPDLC?

Forgive my ignorance please.
4HolerPoler is offline  
Old 29th May 2021, 23:34
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: away from home
Age: 60
Posts: 770
Well, I am not an expert but I understand your predicament. My operator has been working on this issue for years. The sheer stupidity of a different communications protocol for Europe vs rest of the world is astounding.
I suspect you will need a separate datalink box for Europe on a 737. But I will happily stand corrected.
oceancrosser is offline  
Old 30th May 2021, 03:06
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: I wouldn't know.
Posts: 4,272
As there are quite a few 737NGs operating in Europe there seems to be a certified and whitelisted ATN B1 avionics suite for that aircraft type, using up to date VDL 2 communications. Ask your maintenance provider about that. However, as a GA airplane a private 737 should be exempted from the datalink mandate anyway.
Denti is offline  
Old 30th May 2021, 14:02
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 2,094
Originally Posted by oceancrosser View Post
The sheer stupidity of a different communications protocol for Europe vs rest of the world is astounding.
There I was, thinking we had a monopoly on doing things differently.
Check Airman is offline  
Old 30th May 2021, 19:40
  #5 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hilton, Sheraton or Marriott
Posts: 1,802
I sincerely appreciate the responses until now. Iím hoping for some advice I can follow. All of Ryanairís fleet have this extended capability so it canít be expensive.

We are exempt but it would be really cool if we could use the system rather than losing the capability.
4HolerPoler is offline  
Old 30th May 2021, 21:15
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: IRS NAV ONLY
Posts: 1,098
According to this page, FMC U14 brings capability for both FANS and ATN to be simultaneously used on the B737.
FlyingStone is online now  
Old 30th May 2021, 22:08
  #7 (permalink)  
Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hilton, Sheraton or Marriott
Posts: 1,802
Brilliant FlyingStone! Thank you so much - this is exactly what I was looking for. Weíll see what U 14.1 provides us and understand that we may still require a CMU (we definitely have one of these) with an ATN Router (not so sure of this).

Iíll update for interest and sincerely appreciate your collective advice.
4HolerPoler is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.