A350 CCQ cost and training centres

[FlareArmed2]

Currently flying A330 and considering paying for an A350 rating. Any suggestions for training centres and/or costs? I believe it is four days ground school and either two or four sims, happy to be corrected

[ScepticalOptomist]

May I ask why you would do that?

[dual land]

If you are flying the A330, you should already have the A350 on your license too. Therefore, only a short differences training would be required.

[FlareArmed2]

Originally Posted by dual land

If you are flying the A330, you should already have the A350 on your license too. Therefore, only a short differences training would be required.

I think that only applies if you've done a recent A330 type rating. I've been told for older A330 ratings a difference course is required that may, or may not, also require some sim. If it's a matter of a fee few days ground school and a low cost it would interest me. However finding out exactly what is required is a mystery.

[BuzzBox]

The 'standard' A330/A350 differences course consists of four days ground school (on a laptop), followed by one APT session and four sessions in the FFS. My employer has added two extra sessions (one APT, one FFS) to satisfy company specific requirements. Frankly, I think that's probably the minimum to properly cover all the differences and to adequately prepare pilots before they hop into the aircraft. After the simulator phase we do two familiarisation sectors in the aircraft (one observation sector and one operating with a training captain), followed by four consolidation sectors in an operating seat before we are cleared for A330/A350 single fleet flying. It's not a trivial exercise and there are a LOT of differences. Mind you, the hardest part of flying the A350 is setting the thing up on the ground!

[dual land]

Originally Posted by FlareArmed2

I think that only applies if you've done a recent A330 type rating. I've been told for older A330 ratings a difference course is required that may, or may not, also require some sim. If it's a matter of a fee days ground school and a low cost it would interest me. However finding out exactly what is required is a mystery.

As others have said, it does include some simulator. It isn't the 737 NG to MAX training, after all.

[Sidestick_n_Rudder]

Actually, in EASA land you don’t need an FFS at all. It is officially 4 days of ground school and 4 APT sessions and no skill test (as you already have the TR).

From what I heard though, everyone is throwing in extra FFS sessions.

[ZFT]

Originally Posted by Sidestick_n_Rudder

Actually, in EASA land you don’t need an FFS at all. It is officially 4 days of ground school and 4 APT sessions and no skill test (as you already have the TR).

From what I heard though, everyone is throwing in extra FFS sessions.

I understood there to be an extra HUD session if required?

[FlareArmed2]

Thank you "BuzzBox" & "Sidestick n Rudder" for clarifying the course

[Sidestick_n_Rudder]

Originally Posted by ZFT

I understood there to be an extra HUD session if required?

As far as I know, there is some additional HUD training, but it's optional, as not all A350's have the HUD fitted. I don't know the scope of the HUD training, but I imagine it's an extra FFS session. At least that's how things work when transitioning from 777 to 787. Unfortunately I don't have the A330/350 OSD at hand to check it...