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Circling approach for the straight in runway

Old 1st Apr 2019, 20:32
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FWIW:

FAA H-8083-16B: Approaches whose final approach segment is more than 30 degrees different from the landing runway alignment are always designated as circling approaches.
.
E.g.: When the landing is to be made on a runway that is not
aligned with the approach being flown, the controller may
issue a circling approach clearance, such as “…cleared
for VOR Runway 17 approach, circle to land Runway 23.”



EASA: A circling approach is the visual phase of an instrument approach to bring an aircraft into position for landing on a runway which is not suitably located for a straight-in approach. (JAR-OPS 1.435 (a) (1))

JEPPESEN: CIRCLING APPROACH / CIRCLE-TO-LAND MANEUVER — An extension of an instrument approach procedure which provides for visual circling of the aerodrome prior to landing.


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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 06:37
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I think we’re reading the definitions kind of backwards. OK, runways more than 30degs offset (15degs for GPS) from the instrument FAT are designated as circling approaches but that is to stop you going down to the (normally) more permissive PA/NPA minima for the IA runway and trying to manoeuvre at the last minute onto the landing one at too low an altitude. It’s not, IMO, to stop you doing a circling approach to a non-offset runway.

There is nothing that I can think of (visual references, charted notes and ATC excepted) that stops you circling onto *any* runway off *any* approach as long as you stay within the circling area and respect the circling minima. That is the whole point of the area in the first place, yes?

To sum up generically: you can use circling minima to make an approach from any direction to any runway but you can only use IA minima for a non-offset approach. Simples!
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 06:39
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Originally Posted by FullWings View Post
I think we’re reading the definitions kind of backwards. OK, runways more than 30degs offset (15degs for GPS) from the instrument FAT are designated as circling approaches but that is to stop you going down to the (normally) more permissive PA/NPA minima for the IA runway and trying to manoeuvre at the last minute onto the landing one at too low an altitude. It’s not, IMO, to stop you doing a circling approach to a non-offset runway.

There is nothing that I can think of (visual references, charted notes and ATC excepted) that stops you circling onto *any* runway off *any* approach as long as you stay within the circling area and respect the circling minima. That is the whole point of the area in the first place, yes?

To sum up generically: you can use circling minima to make an approach from any direction to any runway but you can only use IA minima for a non-offset approach. Simples!

Yup, couldn't agree more.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 11:10
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Gents the “pro-circling” explanations are definitely very well exposed and I am in no position to prove You wrong. I will try to dig for more information from official sources, as it is quite an interesting topic.
Cheers.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 13:52
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Originally Posted by avionimc View Post
FWIW:

FAA H-8083-16B: Approaches whose final approach segment is more than 30 degrees different from the landing runway alignment are always designated as circling approaches.
.
E.g.: When the landing is to be made on a runway that is not
aligned with the approach being flown, the controller may
issue a circling approach clearance, such as “…cleared
for VOR Runway 17 approach, circle to land Runway 23.”


In the U.S., this would only be at an airport with an operating control tower. If there is not an operating control tower, center or approach control cannot dictate how you circle or what runway you are to use.
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