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Old 10th Aug 2018, 14:17
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Originally Posted by zzuf
Sorry PA, my last dealing with Vp was concerning aquaplanning, I have no idea of the lastest definition, thanks.
Vp is listed in Hurt's text as " The maneuver speed". I don't have Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators before me at this time but the Formula Vp= Vsn^.5 is listed in his book.

Zzuf would you please go into Vp and aquaplaning sounds very interesting...Although Vp is probably only for the Navy and may not exist in the FARs. The FARs may differ than in HHH's text with respect to definitions

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Vo (operating manoeuvring speed) was introduced at A/L 23-45 in 1993 ref FAR Part 23 Sec. 23.1507 effective as of 09/07/1993

AC 23-19A (https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/.../AC_23-19A.pdf) has this to say -

48. What is the design maneuvering speed VA ?

a. The design maneuvering speed is a value chosen by the applicant. It may not be less than Vs√n and need not be greater than Vc, but it could be greater if the applicant chose the higher value. The loads resulting from full control surface deflections at VA are used to design the empennage and ailerons in Part 23, §§ 23.423, 23.441, and 23.455.

b. VA should not be interpreted as a speed that would permit the pilot unrestricted flight-control movement without exceeding airplane structural limits, nor should it be interpreted as a gust penetration speed. Only if VA= Vs √n will the airplane stall in a nose-up pitching maneuver at, or near, limit load factor. For airplanes where VA>VS√n, the pilot would have to check the maneuver; otherwise the airplane would exceed the limit load factor.

c. Amendment 23-45 added the operating maneuvering speed, VO, in § 23.1507. VO is established not greater than VS√n, and it is a speed where the airplane will stall in a nose-up pitching maneuver before exceeding the airplane structural limits.
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus
Vp is listed in Hurt's text as " The maneuver speed". I don't have Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators before me at this time but the Formula Vp= Vsn^.5 is listed in his book.

Zzuf would you please go into Vp and aquaplaning sounds very interesting...Although Vp is probably only for the Navy and may not exist in the FARs. The FARs may differ than in HHH's text with respect to definitions
It is just the standard aquaplaning speed calculated by:
The hydroplaning speed, VP, may be estimated by the equation VP= 9√푃, where VP is the ground speed in knots and P is the tire pressure in lb/in2.
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Thank you Zzuf also J_T for providing those links, really crystallize my understanding.
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Sorry this is the wrong place but my PMs still don't work .. J_T I gave OS your email address via Facebook. Delete this post as necessary.
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Sorry this is the wrong place but my PMs still don't work .. J_T I gave OS your email address via Facebook. Delete this post as necessary.
  1. Pugilistic Animus has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

This is what i get when i send you something. You probably only deleted messages in your inbox folder but forgot to delete them in you "Sent" folder.

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