Hand flying in todays jet transports
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Hand flying in todays jet transports
There are operators in the Middle East and Asia known for their propensity to mandate as SOP no manual flying, except for the few minutes of take off and the landing from short final. Inevitably, the natural result is increasing automatics dependency among their crews. Nevertheless, many of these operators enjoy a good flight safety record.
One letter writer to the editor of Aviation Week and Space Technology (January 29-February11, 2018), makes the following astute observation, however.
"Lack of mechanical breakdowns is way ahead of pilot qualifications or experience resulting in increased safety. Challenge today's pilot with hand-flown non-precision approaches (in a simulator, of course) to see the truth of pilot experience now."
Few would disagree with his sentiment in the light of increasingly sophisticated jet transports coupled with low experience pilots direct from flying schools, now coming into the industry.
One letter writer to the editor of Aviation Week and Space Technology (January 29-February11, 2018), makes the following astute observation, however.
"Lack of mechanical breakdowns is way ahead of pilot qualifications or experience resulting in increased safety. Challenge today's pilot with hand-flown non-precision approaches (in a simulator, of course) to see the truth of pilot experience now."
Few would disagree with his sentiment in the light of increasingly sophisticated jet transports coupled with low experience pilots direct from flying schools, now coming into the industry.
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Hand flown NPA? Ha!
B732, in 80's, dive & drive hand flown NDB was an annual sim check. Hand flown SRA on line was not uncommon. Hand flown everything else, weather permitting, was the norm and expected. An airline with pilots in management meant they expected pilots to be able to handle what was thrown at them, thinking on the spot. They expected and demanded sharp skills both in mind & hand. It was an excellent time, having come from GA ops, to be an apprentice in jet airline ops. The equipment, in the air & on the ground in some places, was basic, but the crews were well up to it.
It is sad and disappointing to see that giant leaps in technology has seen a corresponding decline in piloting skills. There is absolutely no need for it. Not all companies allow it. There are still those who encourage the old ethos. The decline in skills is not a technology issue it is a Flt Ops & training culture within the airline. I flew old & new tech and my skills were kept sharp, even sharper, until they were not allowed to be by handcuffing SOP's. I know of mates who are allowed to fly their B747 like I flew B733. I know of others who fly their B737NG like a play station, because they have to. Don't blame the engineers and designers, blame the Flt Ops managers.
B732, in 80's, dive & drive hand flown NDB was an annual sim check. Hand flown SRA on line was not uncommon. Hand flown everything else, weather permitting, was the norm and expected. An airline with pilots in management meant they expected pilots to be able to handle what was thrown at them, thinking on the spot. They expected and demanded sharp skills both in mind & hand. It was an excellent time, having come from GA ops, to be an apprentice in jet airline ops. The equipment, in the air & on the ground in some places, was basic, but the crews were well up to it.
It is sad and disappointing to see that giant leaps in technology has seen a corresponding decline in piloting skills. There is absolutely no need for it. Not all companies allow it. There are still those who encourage the old ethos. The decline in skills is not a technology issue it is a Flt Ops & training culture within the airline. I flew old & new tech and my skills were kept sharp, even sharper, until they were not allowed to be by handcuffing SOP's. I know of mates who are allowed to fly their B747 like I flew B733. I know of others who fly their B737NG like a play station, because they have to. Don't blame the engineers and designers, blame the Flt Ops managers.
Its not just some Asian and ME Carriers who mandate almost continuous Automatic route flying.
British Airways SOPs ban any manual route handling.(Manual flight defined as, manual control of speed and flightpath)
BA SOPs dictate continuous Auto-throttle on all types except the B744..
British Airways SOPs ban any manual route handling.(Manual flight defined as, manual control of speed and flightpath)
BA SOPs dictate continuous Auto-throttle on all types except the B744..
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On the 737 NG:
I make my students hand fly manually FD and AT off all the way till cruise alt during line training, same for the descent. Feel the aircraft, get to know te difference between Mach and IAS. Then a visual pattern into a Greek island, all manually raw data. No rules in my company limitting the use of automation, manual flying strongly encouraged. In general manual flying skills are very good.
We do have other problems though.
PS I am familiar with RVSM requirements
I make my students hand fly manually FD and AT off all the way till cruise alt during line training, same for the descent. Feel the aircraft, get to know te difference between Mach and IAS. Then a visual pattern into a Greek island, all manually raw data. No rules in my company limitting the use of automation, manual flying strongly encouraged. In general manual flying skills are very good.
We do have other problems though.
PS I am familiar with RVSM requirements
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During route flying on all types except B744, BA SOP only permit manual control of flight path. Speed control continues to mandate full time auto thrust, even when autopilot disengaged.
During route flying on all types except B744, BA SOP only permit manual control of flight path. Speed control continues to mandate full time auto thrust, even when autopilot disengaged.
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Perhaps English isn't your first language. Saying route flying implies aircraft in the en-route phase of flight. i.e. not on approach/departure.
Its not just some Asian and ME Carriers who mandate almost continuous Automatic route flying.
British Airways SOPs ban any manual route handling.(Manual flight defined as, manual control of speed and flightpath)
BA SOPs dictate continuous Auto-throttle on all types except the B744..
British Airways SOPs ban any manual route handling.(Manual flight defined as, manual control of speed and flightpath)
BA SOPs dictate continuous Auto-throttle on all types except the B744..
Lots of "interesting" manual approaches in the biz jet world. Innsbruck, Chambery, Mandelieu, (there are also plenty of VERY exciting ones for the littler jets; but I was on CL604's) plus NPA's at for example Freeport Bahamas dodging some very big CB's on the way in.
PAR approaches are always hand flown. One to minimums in rain and strong winds is a challenge for both pilot and PAR controller. Done a few to mins in those conditions at ETAR and KNHK. Good times.
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I despair at my company. Every time I ask the F/O if he/she would like to do some hand flying they make excuses and bottle out. When I (CRM) ask if they mind if I have a play, it's again, a load of excuses, such as too tired, or weather's not perfect... or they'll report me!
Not banned in the manuals, but generally they're too frightened of FDM or more specifically management's response to FDM if they have an event.
I come from TP and GA and have hand flown smoothly and accurately all my 30 years at the controls. Never an issue till I landed at this company. (won't be here long if I can help it!). UK operator. B737/B757.
Not banned in the manuals, but generally they're too frightened of FDM or more specifically management's response to FDM if they have an event.
I come from TP and GA and have hand flown smoothly and accurately all my 30 years at the controls. Never an issue till I landed at this company. (won't be here long if I can help it!). UK operator. B737/B757.
For the pedants, route flying, I mean mainly approach and landings. Modern jet aircraft obviously designed to be flown on autopilot in cruise.
I suppose practice once or twice a year in the sim is ok??
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