UPS cargo crash near Birmingham AL
@ PJ2 totally agree with you and look forward to more insightful comments from yourselff, MM43 and others.
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pj2:
The realization of death is so extremely brief, unlike many fatal CVRs.
Makes tragic sense in the circumstances.
mm43;
Re, "The extra 8.2 seconds of CVR certainly makes a difference! "
Does it ever!
Re, "The extra 8.2 seconds of CVR certainly makes a difference! "
Does it ever!
Makes tragic sense in the circumstances.
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An updated graphic of the approach profile using the integrated accelerometer altitudes from the NTSB Aircraft Performance Study included with the UPS1354 docket. The altitudes fit well with the Google Earth terrain data, which includes the treetop heights as drawn.
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Félicitations pour ce merveilleux travail.
Thank you mm43.
EDIT : Perfect With your Update Rumours & News \ UPS 1354 NTSB Investigation-CVR \ #41 21st Feb 2014
Thank you mm43.
EDIT : Perfect With your Update Rumours & News \ UPS 1354 NTSB Investigation-CVR \ #41 21st Feb 2014
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So what has been said about the approach plate saying night NA?
Ref pg 37 Document 42 ATC 3 - Attachment 1 - BAA - ATC Airport Emergency Operating Procedures Letter of Agreement Filing Date December 16, 2013 4 page(s) of Image (PDF or TIFF) 0 Photos
Ref pg 37 Document 42 ATC 3 - Attachment 1 - BAA - ATC Airport Emergency Operating Procedures Letter of Agreement Filing Date December 16, 2013 4 page(s) of Image (PDF or TIFF) 0 Photos
In the Colgan thread a few years back there was much angst about chattering about icing and the need for a 'sterile' flight deck. Not seen that concept raised here. Is it a dead letter?
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At Vertical speed of -25fps
@mm43 chart:
From IMTOY to MDA only took 5 seconds,
Then to bottom of clouds, sink rate alert, just 8 more seconds.
Runway in sight, 3 more seconds.
By then the treetops were only 80 feet below...another 3 seconds.
From IMTOY to MDA only took 5 seconds,
Then to bottom of clouds, sink rate alert, just 8 more seconds.
Runway in sight, 3 more seconds.
By then the treetops were only 80 feet below...another 3 seconds.
mm43, no worries, I couldn't figure out the point of the post either! States the obvious.
I thought I would put out a revised GE version using now-available data.
What I can't quite understand yet is why they maintained 2500ft after the localizer intercept - they were cleared the approach "upon interception" well before BASKN, so he could have descended to the FAF Xing altitude but didn't. It was not a big deal as 200ft high isn't a problem but I wonder what led then to the persistent selection of "1500" on the VS?
I'm sure the final report will have some interesting observations.
I thought I would put out a revised GE version using now-available data.
What I can't quite understand yet is why they maintained 2500ft after the localizer intercept - they were cleared the approach "upon interception" well before BASKN, so he could have descended to the FAF Xing altitude but didn't. It was not a big deal as 200ft high isn't a problem but I wonder what led then to the persistent selection of "1500" on the VS?
I'm sure the final report will have some interesting observations.
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