Air India Airbus 319 Suspected Triple Hydraulic Failure
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Air India Airbus 319 Suspected Triple Hydraulic Failure
Air India plane makes emergency landing in Pakistan - The Times of India
Rumour has it that all 3 systems showed over heat. Possibly FWC going bonkers.
An earlier report had placed the aircraft registration as VT-SCG a relatively newer airbus 319 msn somewhere in th early 3000's.
Rumour has it that all 3 systems showed over heat. Possibly FWC going bonkers.
An earlier report had placed the aircraft registration as VT-SCG a relatively newer airbus 319 msn somewhere in th early 3000's.
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Air India flight makes emergency landing in Pakistan
Wonder why they refused the offer to go inside?
Wonder why they refused the offer to go inside?
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The stories seem to interchangeably refer to the aircraft as A319 and A320.
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Which is it?
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Which is it?
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You lose all three HYD systems you can bend over and kiss your @ss goodbye!
DHL Aircraft Hit by Missile Over Baghdad Had Lost All Hydraulics
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As I recall that was an A300B4 which is not FBW and has a nice big steering wheel were the meal tray goes on a" real areoplane"
In this case FBW or not doesn't matter.
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@ Yo767 - I guess you weren't either as you seem to have gotten the aircrft types mixed up. 
Different aircraft, different story.
@ BP - Correct.
You lose 3 HYD systems on the A318/319/320/321 you are done.
Different aircraft, different story. @ BP - Correct.
You lose 3 HYD systems on the A318/319/320/321 you are done.
BPK,
You are right.
However when the DHL airbus was hit by a missile and all three hydraulic systems were lost the control column had no effect on the flight controls as there is no manual reversion, so a fly by wire aircraft would be in the same situation.
ie. Very limited control by use of engine thrust.
You are right.
However when the DHL airbus was hit by a missile and all three hydraulic systems were lost the control column had no effect on the flight controls as there is no manual reversion, so a fly by wire aircraft would be in the same situation.
ie. Very limited control by use of engine thrust.
Every time I read the phrase 'Miracle on the Hudson' I think of the Baghdad Airbus incident. All engine out ditching was a piece of cake compared to that.
If it was an actual triple Hyd failure I'd expect some statement from Toulouse quite quickly. The reports in the Indian media are quite clear when they state 'they believe' all three systems failed. The lack of a smoking hole in the ground suggest their beliefs are misplaced.
If it was an actual triple Hyd failure I'd expect some statement from Toulouse quite quickly. The reports in the Indian media are quite clear when they state 'they believe' all three systems failed. The lack of a smoking hole in the ground suggest their beliefs are misplaced.
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Every time I read the phrase 'Miracle on the Hudson' I think of the Baghdad Airbus incident. All engine out ditching was a piece of cake compared to that.
DHL was quite different. Many issues, like no flight controls at all, asymmetric lift/drag, no support from ECAM or even FCOM. But a little mor time to figure it out.
Just fly the aluminium to a safe end.
And they made it.
Still full of respect.
Retired A300 jockey
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CaptProp wrote:
Landing with 3 hydraulic systems failure was incorporated in our recurrent training program in my company after the DHL Baghdad incident. Since we were/are flying in sensitive areas (Irak, Kabul, Sudan, Yemen), the probability of being hit by a missile is greater than if you fly let's say in northern Canada. I and my colleagues have landed numerous times on A320, B767 and E190 (in the simulator of course) with the 3 hydraulic systems failure. After a little bit of practice, any pilot with a minimum of coordination can land on the pavement. So CaptProp, if one day you fly with a current or ex Gulfair pilot in the flight deck and we encounter this failure, while you kiss your arse goodbye, we'll be trying to land the airplane on the numbers.
You lose 3 HYD systems on the A318/319/320/321 you are done.
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THS (trimmable horizontal stabilizer) through trim wheel,and rudder mechanical backup are available in case of All hydraulic failure,or All flight control computer failure.Practiced in the SIM once in a while,not expected to happen in real life.
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Originally Posted by leftseatview
THS (trimmable horizontal stabilizer) through trim wheel,and rudder mechanical backup are available in case of All hydraulic failure