who was the first pilot to say: we can't go down and slow down!

[sevenstrokeroll]

this question simply must be answered in order to have a complete understanding of modern aviation!

;-)

[bubbers44]

Never said that because I was moving that lever back way over on the right side of the console and retarding the throttles at the same time. Too busy to say I couldn't do it so just went down and slowed down at the same time. I wonder what airlines said that? I can guess. U and A? I guess that is how you get the reputation as a sky Nazi.

[Green Guard]

if I understood the question then:

If you are far away you can do anything

If you are close, you must FIRST slow down,
( in order to "dirty" your 'craft), and then GO down

It is like before driving down the road of 10 % or more...
If you do not slow down first, and change the gear
you may well become airborne



"you can't eat the cake and have it in the same time ..."

[con-pilot]

Most likely a DC-8 captain, the DC-8 did not have speed brakes or spoilers.


Course they could lower the main gear and reverse 2 % 3 in flight. That helped.

There were times when I have said that, well at least somebody in the cockpit has informed ATC of that inconvenient fact.

[BOAC]

Actually I believe it was 'Pierre zee famouse French Fighter Pilot" who would only go down in flames.

[Storminnorm]

You could deploy the inboard reversers in flight on the DC 8 IIRC?
That would slow you down a bit.
Oh! You said that already!!! Sorreee!!!

[DC-ATE]

who was the first pilot to say: we can't go down and slow down!

Actually, I did, because I NEVER let ATC fly MY airplane !!

[FLCH]

Pierre would only have gone down in flames after setting his moustache alight with brandy and saying those immortal words " When Pierre goes down...he goes down in flames" to a lovely young French girl !!

[aterpster]

Whichever Wright brother made the first flight.

[jimmyg]

I do not know who was the first but I may have been the most recent having to tell Mumbia this last night.

I prefer the way it is done in New York; decend and then maintain xxx kts.

[misd-agin]

The first 757 pilot .... ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!

[DJ77]

Dha more you go down faster, dha less you slow down qwicker.
PS. for Pierre, it's not brandy, its cognac.

[TyroPicard]

Of course you can go down and slow down... you just do neither very quickly!

[PantLoad]

Good post....

Good post, sevenstrokeroll. I'm enjoying this....


Fly safe,


PantLoad

[4dogs]

May be it was the old and bold QF pilot flying his brand new B707 into Sydney who, when held up by ATC with a requirement to maintain speed and then finally cleared to descend way too close the field, reportedly said:

"You can't be serious! What do you think we're in - an elevator!"

Stay Alive,

[DJ77]

I also heard this once:

- "Either give us a descent clearance or start lifting the airport."

[sevenstrokeroll]

pantload

glad you understand the purpose of the post! ;-)

I had never heard of piere the french fighter pilot before...that's a good one.

[Shaggy Sheep Driver]

ATC: "What do you mean, you can't descend that quickly? You have spoilers, don't you?"

Captain Speaking: "Indeed I do. But they are for my mistakes, not yours".

[Green Guard]

I had never heard of piere the french fighter pilot

I am not sure. Can somebody please confirm if it was this one ?

Pierre Clostermann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Obituary: Pierre Clostermann | World news | The Guardian

[JimmyBiggles]

As a response once to ATC asking if they were ok for height and speed the captain responded in a very broad Yorkshire accent: "We've got an abundance of both..............."