Bomb on board Explodes ( A-320 )
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Bomb on board Explodes ( A-320 ) Hypothetical Scenario
If during climb out of 5000 feet a bomb in the forward hold explodes and the doors takes out engine no 2 severe damage?
Any suggestions for this scenario ?
Any suggestions for this scenario ?
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Do you think a single sentence clearly states your requirements or an adequate basis t explain exactly what the nature of your query is, and why? Is this a simulator scenario, a home flight sim scenario, a tech query....what? Of course a bloody door going into an engine is going to spoil your day! The damage could be anything.
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"You might have problems pressurising so id play it safe and land asap"
YOU ARE @£$%ing KIDDING ME!!
Chowder if you haven't got clue as to what you are talking about then please shut up.
Go to Spotters corner or Flight sim forums........
YOU ARE @£$%ing KIDDING ME!!
Chowder if you haven't got clue as to what you are talking about then please shut up.
Go to Spotters corner or Flight sim forums........
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"You might have problems pressurising so id play it safe and land asap"
YOU ARE @£$%ing KIDDING ME!!
YOU ARE @£$%ing KIDDING ME!!
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I'm not sure I understand the intent of the original question. Is there a reason why any flight deck member would ever pose a question such as this? I detect some underlying issues with this question. None of them good.
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nice one simon.
I appreciate dry humour. Some of the rest of you need to pop a valium and stay off the red meat <wink>
For the OP:
Pretty simple I'd say.
Execute the severe engine checklist, see if anything else isn't working, find a nearby big runway, plan on landing on it sooner rather than later, i.e. don't fret about landing overweight.
Anticipate problems during configuration, especially if there is any sign of damage to the wing, so be ready for flapless. Consider a low speed handling check.
Fly as smoothly as possible, no knowing how screwed your aircraft is structurally.
any more for any more?
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I appreciate dry humour. Some of the rest of you need to pop a valium and stay off the red meat <wink>
For the OP:
Pretty simple I'd say.
Execute the severe engine checklist, see if anything else isn't working, find a nearby big runway, plan on landing on it sooner rather than later, i.e. don't fret about landing overweight.
Anticipate problems during configuration, especially if there is any sign of damage to the wing, so be ready for flapless. Consider a low speed handling check.
Fly as smoothly as possible, no knowing how screwed your aircraft is structurally.
any more for any more?
pb
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Outside the box
It is interesting to see which pilots have imagination and can think outside the box.
Does the QRH. FCOM3,etc
Could this happen to you ?
It could be a simulator scenario ?
Do things happen in real life like in the scenario ?
Could this happen in real life ?
prepare for the worst, hope for the best
I dont have a cristal ball
I am not as intelligent as some of you experienced ppruners obviously.
Please help me learn.
Lets say a terrorist has set a bomb with a timing mechanism, then.
Thanks for your input
Does the QRH. FCOM3,etc
Could this happen to you ?
It could be a simulator scenario ?
Do things happen in real life like in the scenario ?
Could this happen in real life ?
prepare for the worst, hope for the best
I dont have a cristal ball
I am not as intelligent as some of you experienced ppruners obviously.
Please help me learn.
Lets say a terrorist has set a bomb with a timing mechanism, then.
Thanks for your input
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"Lets say a terrorist has set a bomb with a timing mechanism, then"
Do you have nothing better to do with your time then invent hypothetical situations such as these? (Situations which rarely occur). What is your intention with these questions? To learn? Learn what?
Do you have nothing better to do with your time then invent hypothetical situations such as these? (Situations which rarely occur). What is your intention with these questions? To learn? Learn what?
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Hoffa,
Such scenarios are practiced in the sim and the outcome and subsquent failures will depend on the imagination of the trainer driving the sim.
I don't know if you saw some of the photos of the Qantas 747 that had an oxygen bottle explode ripping through wiring looms. Capt Pit Bulls, rundown is very good but the list of ECAM drills and subsequent failures will really depend on the manner in which the door leaves the airframe.
Does it happen? Not seen it, I think a United(??) 747 lost a fwd cargo door and it was messy, but it did land. But passengers did fall out! Not with each other I hasten to add.
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Standing by for the Boeing boys telling how they wouldn't survived in an Airbus.........
Such scenarios are practiced in the sim and the outcome and subsquent failures will depend on the imagination of the trainer driving the sim.
I don't know if you saw some of the photos of the Qantas 747 that had an oxygen bottle explode ripping through wiring looms. Capt Pit Bulls, rundown is very good but the list of ECAM drills and subsequent failures will really depend on the manner in which the door leaves the airframe.
Does it happen? Not seen it, I think a United(??) 747 lost a fwd cargo door and it was messy, but it did land. But passengers did fall out! Not with each other I hasten to add.
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Standing by for the Boeing boys telling how they wouldn't survived in an Airbus.........
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Jimmy,
It has nothing to do with "thinking outside of the box", and your lack of a "cristal ball" (sic) isn't really relevant either.
Putting your "Hollywood" fantasies to one side for a moment, pilots would deal with the repercussions of any incident or emergency by identifying the problem, and as time permits utilizing the remaining resources. Every incident is different, and in a complex machine the net result would likely involve a combination of actions and procedures to achieve a successful outcome.
Your scenario is silly. It assumes one result which is meaningless. When a bomb exploded in the cargo hold of a 747 over Scotland, it didn't much matter what damage happened to various other assemblies, because the result was catastrophic.
The good news would be, that it would stun the snakes!
It has nothing to do with "thinking outside of the box", and your lack of a "cristal ball" (sic) isn't really relevant either.
Putting your "Hollywood" fantasies to one side for a moment, pilots would deal with the repercussions of any incident or emergency by identifying the problem, and as time permits utilizing the remaining resources. Every incident is different, and in a complex machine the net result would likely involve a combination of actions and procedures to achieve a successful outcome.
Your scenario is silly. It assumes one result which is meaningless. When a bomb exploded in the cargo hold of a 747 over Scotland, it didn't much matter what damage happened to various other assemblies, because the result was catastrophic.
The good news would be, that it would stun the snakes!
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Well is this necessary or is it a windup
The exsistance of this thread indicates a statistical correlation between shoe size (Eu) and IQ - Its hardly a senario that would be discussed on a public forum is it. Dear me
CAT III.
CAT III.
QAR ASR
Simon Chowder's comment was obviously tongue in cheek.
Made I laaarf!
Come on, lighten up. The original post is so vague that it begged a ludicrous comment. It got one.
Personally, I'd check the MEL, contact the operator's MCC/MOC and cover my arris before some jumped up quality dept knob with nothing better to do than pick holes in the paperwork, sent an all points bullitin out demanding why I hadn't let them know the exact state of the a/c and the length of any delay as soon as the damn bomb had gone off!!!!
OK maybe it's me that needs to lighten up.
Rant over.
Simon Chowder's comment was obviously tongue in cheek.
Made I laaarf!
Come on, lighten up. The original post is so vague that it begged a ludicrous comment. It got one.
Personally, I'd check the MEL, contact the operator's MCC/MOC and cover my arris before some jumped up quality dept knob with nothing better to do than pick holes in the paperwork, sent an all points bullitin out demanding why I hadn't let them know the exact state of the a/c and the length of any delay as soon as the damn bomb had gone off!!!!
OK maybe it's me that needs to lighten up.
Rant over.
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Storminnorm,
DC-10 cargo hold door was a design issue.
AFAIK on the A320 they are plug doors, which is why I am somewhat baffled by the question.
An explosion in the hold could blow a hole and scatter a spray of debris from skin panels, etc. but I cannot see why it would necessarily blow out the door itself.
DC-10 cargo hold door was a design issue.
AFAIK on the A320 they are plug doors, which is why I am somewhat baffled by the question.
An explosion in the hold could blow a hole and scatter a spray of debris from skin panels, etc. but I cannot see why it would necessarily blow out the door itself.