Flying a 747 Classic/Tristar with no FE
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411A's farcical comments
fergineer, thank you. As professional F/E's we both know why we were/are employed. Commanders who conduct themselves as his comments suggest 411A does are, fortunately, very rare. As for writing up snags, of course the PIC was always made aware of what was to be written up. Like yourself I am unable to recall ever having had a PIC demand that a defect not be written up and I know that almost all Captains accepted the advice coming from their F/E's when it came to the technical aspects. I am very proud of my contribution to aviation and I know that my role was an integral part of the operation.
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Fortunately, the professional Flight Engineers I fly with now (all originally Lockheed trained, long ago) are professional in every respect and, in addition, positively know who the Commander is...and it certainly ain't them.
And I suppose you have banned them from this site as well as if it was I who you were talking about there would be a one way conversation "behind the hangar" having just read that dribble.
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Trained by Lockheed long ago
411A Sadly, your comments are not just dismissive of your fellow crew members, but also way off the beam. Like your professional Flight Engineers, I too received training from Lockheed many years ago on the C130H Hercules, this after having operated on both the C130A and C130E for the previous ten years. Lockheed, I might add, were very impressed with our level of knowledge of the C130H gleaned before arriving to pick up our new aircraft. I too positively always knew who was in command and always respected that authority, even with the couple of commanders with similar high opinions of themselves as you display. Almost all those commanders with whom I flew, unlike yourself, respected my contribution as well as that of their F/O.
Consider the source of the adverse comments regarding yourself if you will, I personally could not care less what you or those of your ilk think of me. One thing I am certain of is that most pilots would rather fly with me as part of their crew than have you as their commander. As for the comments re the Tristar, I have to defend the type. My time on it was one of enjoyment and appreciation of the way it operated. Maybe a bit more maintenance intensive than the Classic, but a far nicer environment in which to work. That is, of course, provided one did not have to share the flight deck with one such as yourself.
Consider the source of the adverse comments regarding yourself if you will, I personally could not care less what you or those of your ilk think of me. One thing I am certain of is that most pilots would rather fly with me as part of their crew than have you as their commander. As for the comments re the Tristar, I have to defend the type. My time on it was one of enjoyment and appreciation of the way it operated. Maybe a bit more maintenance intensive than the Classic, but a far nicer environment in which to work. That is, of course, provided one did not have to share the flight deck with one such as yourself.
