Beech 38 Hollywood Crash
 

Speculative, but very interisting indeed.

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Remote Control QU-22 Bombs Jewish Quarter in Hollywood
"Not a Terrorist Attack!" says Department of Homeland Security

Copyright Joe Vialls, 8 June 2003





At 1000 hrs Greenwich Mean Time on 7 June 2003, Australia's
early television news ran some extraordinary Japanese video footage showing
a Beech 36 single-engine aircraft rolling into a perfectly controlled
85-degree dive overhead Hollywood, California. With its wings rock-steady,
and without the slightest trace of yaw, the Beechcraft accelerated swiftly
before plunging vertically into an apartment block in Fairfax, a
predominantly Orthodox Jewish quarter located close to the famous Hollywood
Sunset Strip. Speed of impact was approximately 250 miles per hour.
Twenty minutes later, stunned by the audacity and accuracy of
the attack dive, I called the network and asked if they could send me a few
frames of the footage by email, because my VCR was not switched on at the
time. "Not a problem," the Chief of Staff said, "but why are you so
interested in the accident?" I told her, which was probably a very unwise
thing to do. Within minutes, network "policy" got in the way and I was
abruptly disconnected. Forty minutes after that, when the other news
networks went to air, the startling Japanese footage had vanished
completely; replaced by low-angle ground shots of Jewish volunteer
paramedics helping out at the crash site.
The FBI initially sent in counterterrorism, hazardous
materials and bomb squad units, but after an urgent telephone call from the
Department of Homeland Security, changed its approach completely, stating
instead that "a preliminary investigation has determined the crash Friday
afternoon was an accident". This absurd and completely premature judgement
was swiftly backed up by local Californian Councilman Jack Weiss, who
claimed "This was not a terrorist incident."
Just how ridiculously premature this decision was, can best be
judged by the statement of NTSB investigator Tealeye Cornejo, who said a few
hours later the same day, "no flight recorder has been found in the
wreckage, and investigators have not yet determined who owns the plane". To
make things worse, the alleged [but unknown and unseen] pilot failed to
contact the Southern California Terminal Radar Approach Control facility, as
ordered by the Santa Monica control tower.
Now let me see if I have this right so far: An aircraft
nose-dives like a crazed German Stuka right into the middle of a pack of
"vulnerable" Jews, who in turn are located right in the middle of Hollywood,
the most hated propaganda filmmaking facility in America. The Department of
Homeland Security does not know the name of the pilot or the owner of the
Beechcraft 36, but does know that the aircraft failed to follow direct
orders issued by the Santa Monica control tower. Then the Department of
Homeland Security declares it was merely an accident. Does this make any
sense to you? Of course it doesn't, because the entire sequence of events
shrieks "terrorism" at anyone with an IQ higher than 50.
Unfortunately, the Office of Homeland Security faces a problem
so serious that, as you may have already noticed from time to time, it feels
obliged to tell outright lies. Many Americans have become so sensitized to
"terrorist" air crashes in the wake of 9-11 that they now travel by Amtrak
or by automobile, thereby accidentally driving the American domestic
airlines ever deeper into debt, with many operators now approaching complete
bankruptcy. So if even a single small aircraft crash is linked to terrorism,
as was the case with the Cessna flown into the Bank America building in
Florida for example, about one million more Americans join the ever
expanding throng of those who permanently refuse to fly. This is very bad
news for airline investors and Wall Street alike.
There are only three ways a light aircraft like the Beechcraft
36 in Hollywood can return to earth in accidental circumstances. If the
engine fails or runs out of fuel, the aircraft glides at a relatively
shallow angle of about 30 degrees, allowing the pilot time [and a little
distance] to pick a suitable landing site. If the engine fails and the pilot
accidentally loses control and stalls the aircraft completely, it will fall
to earth in a spin, unless or until it is physically recovered from that
spin by the pilot. If the aircraft suffers major structural failure in mid
air [lost or broken wing or elevator or vertical stabilizer], it will
flutter towards the ground like a falling leaf. None of these three
accidental conditions applied in any way to the Beechcraft 36, which dived
rock-steady at 85 degrees and 250 m.p.h. into Hollywood, with its engine
screaming at full power.
So who was the poor sap who buckled himself in at Santa Monica
and took off on this suicide mission? For those who have studied the Cessna
crashes into the White House on 9-11 [1994] and Bank America building on 5
January 2002, or the Rockwell crash into the Pirelli Tower in Milan on 18
April 2002, the most likely conclusion is that the pilot was either dead
before take-off, or not on board the aircraft at all. In all three earlier
cases no-one saw any of the alleged pilots board the aircraft, no-one saw
them take off, and there are no existing control tower tapes that record any
of the three voices. In like manner, none of the three pilots [Corder,
Bishop and Fasulo] had any record of instability or lack of flying
discipline, nor any motive to embark on a "suicide" mission.



A rare picture of the Beechcraft QU-22 complete with ground remote-control
vehicle

What is especially intriguing, is that the aircraft used for the
vertical dive on the Jewish Quarter, is "officially" one of the exact types
converted for remote control use during the Vietnam War. Modified from the
civilian Beech Model 36 Bonanza under the "Pave Eagle II" program, the
military-designated "QU-22s" contained several changes for military service.
The QU-22 carries an extra generator to power its electronic equipment, and
additional fuel in extended wing tip tanks for increased endurance. Its
remote control equipment allows the QU-22 to be flown directly by an onboard
pilot or as an unmanned drone. The aircraft can stay airborne for 10 hours
unmanned, or for 8 hours if the detachable tip tanks are removed. The last
QU-22 operational mission in SEA was flown in September 1972. After use in
military service most of these fully-equipped aircraft were placed in the
civilian market, with one changing hands as recently as late 2002.
The most extraordinary thing about the Hollywood crash was the
complete lack of media fuss. Now think about this very carefully, people,
think about it. When did you last [or ever] hear of a catastrophe striking a
Jewish community, without an immediate media knee-jerk reaction demanding
retribution and compensation? If a Palestinian so much as scratches a car in
Tel Aviv with his bicycle, he is likely to be fined or shot dead, before the
brave Jewish soldiers move on to demolish his parent's house - after looting
it first of course.
By comparison with Tel Aviv, Hollywood is a veritable gold mine.
Within 12 hours there should have been strident demands for millions of
dollars in compensation from the pilot's insurance company, and then from
the pilot's parents, children, cousins, and whoever. Following this,
Raytheon-Beechcraft should have been asked to contribute a million or two,
with Santa Monica airport rushing in to provide free transport and kosher
catering.
But it never happened, and the entire episode was killed by the
media in just a few hours. Exactly why this riveting story was killed so
quickly is not too hard to work out. It is a fact [rather than
"anti-Semitic" hyperbole] that the largest investors in America's domestic
airlines happen to be Jewish-controlled corporations or individuals. Say too
much about the Hollywood crash, and watch your airline investments instantly
diminish in value as yet another million Americans decide to travel by train
or automobile.
It is also a fact that the largest investors in the American
media and film industries [especially Hollywood] are once again
Jewish-controlled corporations or individuals. Say too much about the
Hollywood crash, and watch your tourist dollars melt away from southern
California like snow in the Spring. But, hey, getting the media to shut down
the Hollywood story really isn't a problem. Well, it isn't a problem if you
own most of the media as well!
The most fascinating questions about the Hollywood Beechcraft 36
attack revolve around who is doing what to whom, and why. If, as seems
likely, this was a small-scale "proof of concept" strike, then the attackers
have come out decidedly on top. The high-speed denial without evidence by
Homeland Security, the FBI, local police an councilors, has confirmed that
no-one wants to talk about invisible "Arab hijackers" anymore, and no-one
wants to risk their investments any further by linking them to invisible
"Terrorists" of any persuasion.
The bottom line is simply this: The attackers now know that they
can pancake a blazing 200-ton Boeing 767 straight down Sunset Strip at 550
m.p.h. any time they want to, and rely completely on the Department of
Homeland Security to pull the FBI off the scent, while Councilman Jack
Weiss helpfully claims "This was not a terrorist incident."

The author is a former member of the Society of Licenced
Aeronautical Engineers and Technologists, London

Now I am not a pilot, but couldn't there be a fourth way? Pilot has heart attack, remains rigid at the controls, plane responds as "erroneously" commanded?:confused:

From the FAA's web site:From the FAA register:
(Emphases mine). Next bit of nonsense, please :hmm:

I. M. Esperto

Dittos to Newswatcher.

Possibility 5. Carbon monoxide leak. Pilot passes out at controls. Happened to a friend of mine (that or they theororize he may have fallen asleep.)

Bonanzas are used for check-hauling and if it was day light, this pilot may have been up for many hours. Perhaps fatigue and CO.

I think any pretext to a dry run for terrorists is off the mark. It would only spark TSA interest.

Make no mistake though, terrorists will try to use aircraft again. Was this crash followed by a big explosion? 500lbs of Semtex could do a lot of damage. If there was no massive explosion, I'm inclined to think it was not Al Khaeda.

PT

I am only SLF, but have been reading pprune for several months. IMEsperto's assertion that US media buried the story of the Fairfax district crash has moved me to register so I could post the information that it simply isn't true. I live in Los Angeles (in fact, about 1.5 miles from the crash site) and our media -- tv, radio, newspaper -- was saturated with the news. And I'm pretty sure it was covered that evening on the national tv news (tho perhaps not on the east coast broadcast, due to timing; the national evening news broadcasts are often updated for the west coast feed). There have been days of follow-ups on tv, including re the medical progress of one of the victims who was in the apartment building, who was airlifted to a burn center. And I saw at least one interview with another pilot based at Santa Monica airport who apparently knew the pilot of the crashed plane.

I checked pprune a few times over the weekend for a relevant thread, wondering at first why I couldn't find one, then concluding that the crash must have been too insignificant and only of local interest.

I have no special knowledge of the event, but just wanted to post this information.

Ummm
 

Some folks live to create conspiracy theories and others actually embellish them. Never let a true accident reduce the need for some individual to spout a conspiracy..

Lot's of people who are two sandwiches short of a picnic are out there hiding in the bushes....maybe they should give reality a second chance.

Newark

And anybody living in Newark has to be a bit nuts.

I didn't make the story up, I posted a story from a given source, so what's your problem?

The owner and his niece both died in the crash.

Yeah, I do like to examine conspiracies, so what?

I do find it interesting though that it's terrorist this and terrorist that and then as soon as something actually happens, the first thing the government says is "It wasn't anything to do with a terrorist attack"

There was something just lately that was just like that, but I can't remember what it was. SOme kind of crash or explosion or something.

Joe Vialls is a private investigator of considerable experience. Lately, he has been active in anti-terrorist investigations.

Do a search on him, quite impressive.

Is Joe Vialls the same Joe Vialls who proposed that the September 11th "hijack" jets were actually fitted with remote controls, and that the crashes were caused when unauthorised individuals took over control of these systems, on(from) the ground? :confused:

"Yow! The credibilty circuit breaker just popped, followed by the beliveability meter going to zero."

(But who could have planted that information --AND WHAT WAS HIS PURPOSE?)

PT:ok:

Which witch are you hunting?
 

To: I M Esperto

Please note the following:

The registered owner of the aircraft in question is:

Name SIEGEL, JEFFREY
Street 1820 14TH ST STE 201
City SANTA MONICA State CALIFORNIA Zip Code 90404-4646
County LOS ANGELES
Country UNITED STATES

Mr. Siegle, if he was at the controls, is Jewish. Did anyone ever give consideration to the fact that he may have been committing suicide and in the process taking out some relatives or associates living in the apartment complex? This has happened before.

That is one theory that is yet to be explored. One other point is that to save yourself some embarrassment stick to stories about aircraft because they are both informative and interesting. But, please keep you ultra conservative feelings and your right leaning politics out of the stories.


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Lu - "..stick to stories about aircraft because .." Excuse me, this was no yacht, it was AN AIRCRAFT.


"But, please keep you ultra conservative feelings and your right leaning politics out of the stories."

Why should I? This forum is crawling with liberals.

BTW, I never mentioned Jewish, you did. Perhaps he was. On the other hand, there is a teaching Nun around here named Jerilyn Einstein.

Yeah but.....
 

To: I M Esperto

It started out as an aircraft story but it got lost in a lot of conjecture and innuendo.

The reason I mentioned your political leanings and your publicizing them on these forums is that it raises a lot of anti American sentiment. This is especially true on the military forum.

The reason I mentioned Mr. Siegles’ ethnicity was that the article you quoted alluded to the fact it might be a terrorist (read Moslem).

Regarding Sister Jerilyn Einstein she may have converted to Catholicism or then again she may be of German origin. But what does this have to do with my post.

Don’t get me wrong, most of what you post is very interesting and it sometime touches on the bizarre.

:cool: