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artkingjw 3rd March 2025 01:39

Skidding On Brakes and Full Throttle From Static
 
Hi all, amateur sim pilot here (X-Plane). I've been playing with a payware C172S model recently and noticed that the aircraft skids quite easily with brakes applied (toe or parking) when the throttle is above 2000 RPM from static. My question is, is this realistic? Does the 172S produce enough thrust to force the aircraft to skid along in real life?

My own personal GA experience has been limited to Piper and Diamond trainers mostly as a passenger. Neither of them skid when under brakes, as far as I noticed. I asked other pilots and some said that the C182 can skid forward when braked and from static.

Keen to know your thought. Cheers,

DuncanDoenitz 3rd March 2025 09:34

Not a pilot, but retired Licensed Engineer with Cessna Rating, amongst others. Never had slippage on the footbrakes at max power/static.

Parking brake; depends. Efficiency varies from aircraft to aircraft, depends how well it's set up. Theoretically, it should match the toe-brakes, but personally I would only trust it to temporarily hold a parked aircraft.

awair 3rd March 2025 11:44

This behaviour that you mention is not representative of any aircraft I have flown.

I use Xplane 11 with the default C172. While the flight characteristics seem reasonable, the ground handling, both rudder pedal steering and braking is poorly modelled. This is a BATD (FAA certification) and by definition not expected to be entirely accurate.

Enjoy the flying and don’t stress the minor details!

artkingjw 3rd March 2025 20:55


Originally Posted by DuncanDoenitz (Post 11839786)
Not a pilot, but retired Licensed Engineer with Cessna Rating, amongst others. Never had slippage on the footbrakes at max power/static.

Parking brake; depends. Efficiency varies from aircraft to aircraft, depends how well it's set up. Theoretically, it should match the toe-brakes, but personally I would only trust it to temporarily hold a parked aircraft.

Cheers, I've noticed a lot of pilots talking about the toe brakes over the parking brake. Good technique to get used to.


Originally Posted by awair (Post 11839865)
This behaviour that you mention is not representative of any aircraft I have flown.

I use Xplane 11 with the default C172. While the flight characteristics seem reasonable, the ground handling, both rudder pedal steering and braking is poorly modelled. This is a BATD (FAA certification) and by definition not expected to be entirely accurate.

Enjoy the flying and don’t stress the minor details!

Cool, that makes sense. Yea I realise sims always have limitations. I'm just really nerdy and like to obsess over the details :p. Also, I can afford to fly a sim, but not a real aircraft.


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