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Acklington 12th March 2017 14:47

Uae380 Problem
 
Uae380 still at fl90 approaching London from Manchester

Hotel Tango 12th March 2017 15:05

Just landed 27L and vacated at the very end.

chaps1954 12th March 2017 15:20

Nose wheel gear problem I believe wouldn`t retract

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 12th March 2017 17:41

FL90 approaching BNN from the north would not be unusual. Anything from FL70-120 depending on traffic are used.

Airclues 12th March 2017 19:21

It would be if your destination is Dubai!

DaveReidUK 12th March 2017 19:27

True, but maintaining FL90 all the way from MAN isn't quite so usual.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 12th March 2017 19:42

Thanks Air Clues but who said anything about Dubai?

Thanks Dave.. but who said it was maintaining FL90 all the the way from Manchester?

Airclues 12th March 2017 19:43

The higher fuel consumption reduces the dumping time. (I have no idea about the A380 dumping rates and fuel consumption. Had it been a 744 I could have quoted you the figures)

Airclues 12th March 2017 19:48


Thanks Air Clues but who said anything about Dubai?
The source of all factual aviation news of course!


DaveReidUK 12th March 2017 20:05


Originally Posted by Airclues (Post 9703962)
The higher fuel consumption reduces the dumping time. (I have no idea about the A380 dumping rates and fuel consumption. Had it been a 744 I could have quoted you the figures)

It orbited for half-an-hour before setting course for LHR, but I'd be surprised if it spent that time raining Jet A-1 down on the good citizens of Wakefield ...

Talkdownman 12th March 2017 21:43

Pin left in?

DaveReidUK 12th March 2017 23:38

Never happens. :O

Joking aside, I'd be surprised if EK use gear pins on a turnround at MAN.

bcgallacher 13th March 2017 13:13

Some companies insisted that lock pins were left in during pushback.Always thought that was unnecessary- may lead to the problem we have just seen.

Airclues 13th March 2017 13:22

From my distant memory, the removal of the down-lock pins must be entered in the AML. How do the engineers do this if they are in for push-back (or have the rules changed?)? I don't know about the 380 but the 744 down-lock pins are quite high up in the nose-wheel bay.
This pin should not be confused with the Hydraulic Shutoff Pin which is inserted during push-back to disable the nose-wheel steering and is shown to the pilots by the push-back crew.

Airbubba 13th March 2017 18:25

More here from a couple of usual sources:

Incident: Emirates A388 at Manchester on Mar 12th 2017, could not retract landing gear

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f.../ek18/#cb719a6

bcgallacher 14th March 2017 10:07

747 Downlock pins can be removed with a long tool while standing on the ground.

wiggy 14th March 2017 10:17

AIrclues


From my distant memory, the removal of the down-lock pins must be entered in the AML.
FWIW (probably not a lot) it still is with us (744/777) - downlock pins must be removed, seen by the flight crew and signed as removed in the AML prior to a pushback prior to flight. Obviously (?) the gear steering lock out pin gets removed prior to taxi.....

Now...are we any closer to finding out what happened with the 380?


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