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bunyip 18th February 2001 07:51

Boeing/Airbus
 
Having read another predictable thread about the relative merits of the two philosophies, and realising it will never be agreed, I thought of a way to solve the arguments. In a totally unbiased, impartial manner of course, with no axe to grind either way. The way to do it is as follows:
When a pilot starts to fly a 'Bus, cancel his licence and issue a new one endorsed FOR AIRBUS/PC SIMULATORS ONLY. When he comes back and is retrained on a real airplane, give him back his full licence.
What could be fairer than that?

SFly 18th February 2001 21:20

Oh, come one, not this again!! There are plenty of identical threads to this one in the archives etc, so instead of wasting space with another pointless argument that goes nowhere, how's about we just stop it right here, okay? Sound good? SFly

bunyip 21st February 2001 04:23

Well I thought I was being funny! Jeeze Louise! Should have gone to Jet Blast instead, those guys will laugh at anything.

James#1 25th February 2001 03:14


i totally agree with you! Give me boeing anytime. You can teach a monkey to fly an airbus ask anyone who does! If you are inclined to be a passive computer operator then get type trained on the airbus, but if your intention was to fly for a living then go boeing!

SFly 26th February 2001 01:09

Bunyip -- forgiven. . .James1 not forgiven.
:) SFly

MileHi 26th February 2001 23:15

Boeing...... Any time, any place!

I fly Airbus http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

Twin Peaks 27th February 2001 01:22

Look, you bunch of luddite tossers, I doubt whether any of you actually hold pilots licences. So until you know better, and have actually flown both types, please keep your ill-informed judgements to yourselves.

MileHi 27th February 2001 19:56

Twit Prick,

You sound like a positively idiotic fellow! What do you fly? A kite?


SFly 28th February 2001 03:09

Well said Twin Peaks . . . although, I trust I am excluded from the "luddite tossers"? If you read my replies you'll find I had tried to stop it before it started!

Just protecting my good name! :)
SFly

Irish Steve 1st March 2001 02:45

OK, in for a penny, in for a pound.

I'm not rated on either type, but in the course of a lot of research for providing simulators for heavy jets, I've flown both types in Simulators, and we've done things that most line pilots dread.

There's NO WAY, absolutely NO WAY that a "PC pilot" can come close to flying, or operating either type when things start getting pear shaped, and for all it's automation, the Bus is an absolute PIG to fly when it comes to real nasty stuff like a heavy gross weight manual reversion approach and landing.

Yeah, any monkey can do the basics, and even a little beyond them, but there are specific skills and training required to do the out of the ordinary on either type.

If there's a point that does need to be made, it's this.

The Bus requires the pilot/operator to have a much better OVERALL knowledge of the entire aircraft, and it's much less forgiving of lapses as there are interactions and relationships between systems that just could not be made on the Boeing as the systems evolved over time, rather than being designed as a whole, and that for sure can catch people out very quickly.

Each type has it's specific advantages and shortcomings, and there is a very clear difference in the design philosopy of both types.

As far as I'm concerned, the Jury is still out on as to which is the "correct" one.

Diesel8 1st March 2001 07:26

As the saying goes:"If it is a Boeing, I am not going".

'nuff said

Flap 5 1st March 2001 19:10

All of you Boeing guys really get wound up on this one don't you? Wonder why that is? ...

JBravo 2nd March 2001 22:38

Close this thread. I'm getting tired of this discussion, as do many others I think. I'd settle for a job in both of them if I could. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/frown.gif

SFly 3rd March 2001 00:12

Please close this thread.

Tight Slot 9th March 2001 16:06

Well now, here's a plan - if you don't like whats being said, then don't go on the thread. Now then all you Airbus guys...

jonno 13th March 2001 10:17


I think that goes -
"If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!"

- but I can understand you trying to change it around!.
Cheers!

SieraFox 13th March 2001 16:05

I like the one with carpet on the cockpit/box office floor.......(of course I've flown both)

jonno 14th March 2001 15:02


I think that goes "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" - but I can understand you changing it around.
I also understand that the Canadians have put their new A320s directly into their 'Ageing aircraft program', because of the quality of the product, and their fears that the airframe will not last the distance - don't even mention the avionics!!

Diesel8 14th March 2001 19:32

Actually, it is: "If it is a Boeing, I am not going", I know for a fact, because it was written on the wall at Douglas in Long Beach.

So there. lol.


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