Kala87
 

If you're interested there's definitely a fair few old pics of AMS on !!!!!!!!!!!!!! that I've stumbled across, worth a look if you're interested in that type of thing :)

Its amazing how much that airport has changed in the last 20 or 30 years...

There was an accident with one Oldtimer (i´m not shure if it was a DC-3 or DC-2) in The Netherlands, after which the Authorities restricted the Use of Oldtimer-Airplanes for Passenger-Carrying Flights.
DDA was not able to get the DC-4 Certified for Passengers and it was to Expensive to Operate the Plane without the Income from the Passengerflights.

That was the original DDA DC-3 which from memory crashed into the Ijseelmeer with the loss of all on board.

The DDA's first DC-3, PH-DDA, crashed into the sea off Texel on 25 September 1996, with 32 fatalities.

http://www.aviation-safety.net/datab...?id=19960925-0

Transatlantic DC6
 

Rumour has it that as well as making appearances on the UK and European air show circuit the DC6 in the KLM livery is to go transatlantic to return to Long Beach to celebrate its 50th birthday in 2008 and to visit an air show in Quebec.

Do Air Atlantique use the DC6 for commercial freight charters any more or is it airshows and films only now ?

Like many here I have memories of them over the last 20 years or so. Used to visit my family in the Wirral back in the early 1990s when one did a regular Saturday night newspaper flight from Manchester to Dublin, transiting the Wallasey VOR. I used to go out into the back garden to hear it pass. My mother used to say that on other weekends she would listen from bed to "your old aeroplane going over". She said it's sound reminded her of my father's WW2 Halifaxes setting off from the base in Yorkshire.

Then there was that Coventry airshow in, what, 2000, when just about every airworthy prop aircraft in Europe was there. And several Biggins. And occasions elsewhere when it rumbled through the night overhead my house in London, or a hotel near East Midlands, above the clouds but you could tell just what it was.

I flew on what must have been one of the very last scheduled DC6 passenger services in Europe. It was July 1978 and the flight was between Ponta Delgada and Terceira in the Azores, operated by the local airline SATA. It should have been one of their newly delivered HS748s, the DC6s having been retired from frontline service a couple of months previously but for whatever reason they dusted off the old girl and pressed her into service. Wonderful flight.

WHBM. Only one of the Atlantique DC6's is currently airworthy and they are no longer used on commercial flights.

This would seem to confirm that rumour
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...t-in-2008.html

It was in fact 'born' at Santa Monica, but close enough I suppose.

The DC6 put in a very good performance at the Jersey International Air Display last September - a very welcome sight, particularly in old KLM colours.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...067926&nseq=26

Even though these acft no longer carry pax, are they certificated to do so? I know Air Atlantique operates DC3 pleasure flights from CVT (?); could it do the same at air shows in future?

Keep the Flying?
 

The C of A for G-APSA shows as Transport (Passenger) so that answers one question.
As far as I know both the Air Atlantique aircraft were gutted no seats and no pressureization fitting in them so the aircraft would be flight level restricted meaning a higher fuel burn on some long flight,
G-APSA when seen in Jersey has the cabin with very little in it so the chances of the aircraft reverting back to carrying passengers would be at a large cost.
With her C of A due April 2008 she might be changed to a pernit to fly only which would bring engineering costs down to keep her iin the air being flown at air shows.
It would be a shame but at least every one who is able to go to an airshow where the aircraft is would hopefully see her where she belongs in the air.
We still await the outcome of G-SIXC if she will find her way back into the skies over the U.K. and Europe.:ok:

Having piston engines, she would burn least at sea level. The only performance advantage of going higher would be greater TAS.

C of A will be renewed in 2008.

JPV - DC6 in action
 

For anyone interested in seeing one of the few DC6s in commercial service in action as a freighter, Just Planes has just brought out a new DVD ...

Good idea for anyone thinking of Christmas presents!

BTW, Has G APSA being flying recently at CVT??

I too remember the DC6 freight flight on Sat evening at MAN, I used to wait for it and then 'shoot off' clubbing!!:D

It is still unique that at least 1 of the 2 is still active in 2007.;)

Is G SIXC stored in the Hangar at CVT??:zzz:

Many Thanks.:ok:
BYAI