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PThomas 19th March 2008 14:30

doesnt look like it.. todays SQ308 has just landed - it was a 747-400

hopefully this evenings SQ318 expected at 18:15 will be an A380 - although it might be a bit dark!

Gonzo 19th March 2008 14:35

Presently the only A380 service is the 0530 inbound (SIA322) and 1100 outbound (SIA317).

ChristiaanJ 19th March 2008 14:45

With only three Whales in service at the moment, I would think they'd be a bit streched to do daily returns to both London and Sydney.
So you may still see 747s when you expect an A380.

point5 19th March 2008 15:29

As far as I am aware the A380 morning service is daily. The arrival of the 3rd machine allows them to operate a complete daily A380 Kangaroo service.

allthatglitters 19th March 2008 15:49

Missed the arrival at heathrow and the video to long to download, will just have to make do with seeing the comings and goings at the local airport.

MikeStanton 19th March 2008 16:13

I saw it go over my house this morning,( North Kent) just before 5am, could just make out the Singapore logo.... ;)

WHBM 19th March 2008 16:46

For those uncertain about the current timetable here it is :

Singapore - 2320
Heathrow - 0525/1100
Singapore - 0740

Singapore - 2030
Sydney - 0700/0850
Singapore - 1345

Therefore three aircraft are required, two for the London route and one for Sydney. There is no logical service throughout from London to Sydney, directly connecting flights are on other 747 services. When summer time comes in these times change by minutes but the basic pattern is the same as far into the future as Singapore Airlines currently schedule.

alexmcfire 19th March 2008 17:33

Will they rotate the 3 A380ies on the LHR-SIN and SIN-SYD routes? Or is it
one each that goes all the time on the LHR-SIN and SIN-SYD route and one that rotate inbetween the two routes?

ChristiaanJ 19th March 2008 18:08


Originally Posted by alexmcfire
Will they rotate the 3 A380ies on the LHR-SIN and SIN-SYD routes? Or is it one each that goes all the time on the LHR-SIN and SIN-SYD route and one that rotates in between the two routes?

Ah.....
That's the question the true spotters on here will have to answer using their logbooks!

In practice, I'd expect the three being rotated between the routes as a function of availability, determined by such issues as delays, minor tech problems, maintenance, etc.

CJ

chornedsnorkack 19th March 2008 18:26


In practice, I'd expect the three being rotated between the routes as a function of availability, determined by such issues as delays, minor tech problems, maintenance, etc.
Considering:


Singapore - 2320
Heathrow - 0525/1100
Singapore - 0740

Singapore - 2030
Sydney - 0700/0850
Singapore - 1345
we can see that every day from 13:45 to 20:30 there are two planes in Singapore (and the third is in London).

The longest possible stay of any frame in Singapore is 7:40 to 23:20 - from London back to London, 15:40 stay.

Since the Sydney frame and the London frame in Singapore meet in Singapore, they can freely be exchanged or not exchanged, as seems preferrable.

Any maintenance that cannot be done in 15:40 means cancellations - at least till 008 is delivered (when?).

ChristiaanJ 19th March 2008 18:37

horned snorkack,
Maybe you should do a bit of a read up about the difference between Zulu time and local time....
The Heathrow to Singapore flight does not travel back in time.
It arrives way after the Singapore-Sydney one leaves.

chornedsnorkack 19th March 2008 18:49

The Heathrow to Singapore flight indeed arrives in Singapore in Singapore morning 7:40, having departed Heathrow the previous morning. At that time, a SIN-SYD flight has left some time ago (20:30 the evening before) and has not returned.

No plane is due to fly back to London till 23:20, Singapore time - right?

And the plane into Sydney returns 13:45, Singapore time. From which time there are two frames in Singapore. Until 20:30 Singapore time, when they depart - 20:30 for Sydney, 23:20 for London.

Glen999 19th March 2008 19:25

A380 at Heathrow
 
Anyone know if there were any logistical problems arising out of the A380's arrival at heathrow????

rubik101 19th March 2008 19:59

Why should there be any? It's just another aeroplane, albeit a bit bigger than most others. What difference is there if two B767s land at the same time? Mountains out of molehills spring to mind.

Pugilistic Animus 19th March 2008 20:03

However do airports handle the An-225 I believe I seen video of the AN225 at JFK and LHR--- that 'baby' makes the A380 appear like [ in the word of the 'Governator' of CA] 'like a little gurlyman':}

perhaps a different LCN / PCN?

Pugilistic Animus 19th March 2008 20:08

What would one characterize the 380's gear as? Dual Triple Tandem Dual Double Tandem DTTDDT

pasoundman 19th March 2008 20:11


Glen999
Anyone know if there were any logistical problems arising out of the A380's arrival at heathrow????

Heathrow was one of the very first airports to build new structures to handle the A380.

There are TWO Terminals at Heathrow that can handle it ! No problem whatever. Heathrow as a major hub, was always essential to A380 acceptance by the airlines.

autothrottle 19th March 2008 20:50

Actually its not a bad question. From an ATC aspect the A380 has had a quite significant impact.

It has introduced new taxiway restritions, impact on LSA , introduction of DLSA , Wake vortex seperation for arrival and departure traffic, impact on LVP. These are just some , so logistically this aircraft is treated in different ways to all other aircraft that use heathrow.:bored:

Glen999 19th March 2008 23:01

I knew it was a brilliant question. Thank you. :)

parabellum 19th March 2008 23:08

As well as the night flight SIN-SYD there is a morning one too, used to depart around 08:30 local SIN, though not sure if that one is A380 or B744.


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