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Captain Slack-Bladder 6th May 2002 19:25

God - this thread is boring can't we all find someting else to chew to death?

PS. If BALPA subs were established at 1% eons ago cos there were very few members, why are they still so high when we have 5 to 10 times as many members? Is it because we have a spend-thrift inefficient admin, or that Balpa has allowed salaries to fall 5 to 10 fold?

High Volt 7th May 2002 01:28

airrage

M.Mouse has a point. You are becoming tiresome and your verbosity is choking the flow of debate. I just skip read your posts by the yard. Say what you have to say concisely - God knows what your RT is like!

exeng 7th May 2002 09:43

I am also annoyed that our chairman (MG) chose to spend approx £2000 of our money on postage of a letter to all members presenting (in my opinion) a biased view on the merits of our current Gen Sec.

Then, adding insult to injury, he spends a further £2000 on postage defending his actions.

In my view it is morally unacceptable to spend our money in such a way. I have lost my confidence in MG. I also believe that his action will have had the opposite effect to that which he desired in that many members, who were perhaps undecided, will now vote against CD.


Regards
Exeng

airrage 7th May 2002 09:51

Exeng,

Merv thread exists
Merv G

High Volt, I thought the idea of debate was to clearily state your opinion. It's called free speech. If other people choose to restrict their views to 2syllables that is for them to decide. Just like you can choose to skip my posts. Time and space is not critical on the internet as in RT. I do appreciate your comments as I realise some people prefer pictures and short text newspapers as opposed to broad-sheets.

Anyway, my ballot is in the mail as of this morning, tick one for JF.(Is this better?)

Fourpuffs 7th May 2002 10:08

airrage - Totally agree with your point of view.
In a nutshell,

'it's the economy stupid'

but in terms of the subscription cost versus the benefit gained. Must be the most expensive prof. liability insurance in the world. What I WOULD like to know is why I haven't got a ballot form yet??
Maybe Merv is filling it in for me.

exeng 7th May 2002 10:09

Thanks Airage

I've put my comments there.


Regards
Exeng

Hand Solo 7th May 2002 12:35

Well thats easy Visual. Just go to www.chrisdarke.com and you'll see that none of it is his fault, none of it! What a wonderful man!

M.Mouse 7th May 2002 12:52

Airrage

Your arrogance is breathtaking. You have been criticised several times, on this thread and others, for your verbosity. You do not have the humility to actually stop and think that, maybe, you could express yourself a little more concisely.

It is not the length of your postings but the fact that what you say could be said with 80% fewer words, hence the points you are making are lost, if indeed people bother to wade through your rather poor prose at all.

beaver eager 7th May 2002 13:23

I'd be keen to know whether CD's website had been financed with BALPA funds (i.e. Members' money), I'd be amazed if it hasn't...

Which would then leave me pondering the question of where JF's BALPA sponsored website is?

Oh! I nearly forgot, BALPA don't actually seem (to me, at least) to want fairness in this issue, do they?

Big Tudor 7th May 2002 14:27


Consistent improvements in pay, terms and conditions right across the companies.
Well, that's what the man says. Can you all associate with that comment gents???????

unwiseowl 7th May 2002 16:20

beaver eager - if you bother to read Darkes web site, and I think we owe him that, you'll see that he paid for it himself.

squeaker 7th May 2002 17:11

On £85k, I think he can afford it!

Boeingman 7th May 2002 17:30

Frohnsdorff earns quite a bit more than Darke so I suppose we'll all be seeing his site soon. :)

Notso Fantastic 7th May 2002 18:23

Ah Mr. Boeingman, but what screw do you think CD gets ON TOP of his BALPA income for his duties in the Competition Commission? We evidently have a part time GS for a 'full time' job. Meanwhile, BALPA finances are a disaster area- it is his job to take command of them.

barcode 7th May 2002 18:49

CD looks too much like Branson for my liking; enough reason in itself (if any were needed) to vote for the other guy.

Father Charles Pawnee 7th May 2002 19:10

The web site of the Darke side has been paid for by all BALPA members, for ten years we have let the dark side prosper. This is our chance to get rid.

Personally, I have been a rep for 3 years and have seen the guy only once and even then it was a very brief appearance. It is a time for change, the association is not thriving as some would have you believe and there has been no leadership that I can see, only an increase in membership, could this be linked somehow to the increase in professional pilots? Beats me but I am sure it has something to do with it, not the tireless efforts of the current general secretary.

If you are a member, you have your ballot paper, fill it in and post it back, you dont even have to buy a stamp. If you do nothing you have no right to complain at the evenyual outcome.

Nuff said.....:eek:

foggy duck 7th May 2002 19:18

Notso Fantastic >>>

Would you mind expanding on the "competition commission" bit please.

Still undecided.

Notso Fantastic 7th May 2002 19:30

Doggy- take a look for yourself. The former Monopolies & Mergers Commission is now called the Competition Commission. It is one of those 'Quangos' staffed by Government appointees as favours, all paid for by the taxpayer. Take a look:
http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/

If you do a search for 'Darke', you will find that one of the advisers is our very own Chris Darke. Great, but I thought we had a full time union official looking after OUR interests! As a result, like never before, British Pilots standards of living have collapsed whilst BALPA has been in some sort of trance.

foggy duck 7th May 2002 19:59

Notso Fantastic>>>

Gobsmacked isn't the word !!!

He's taken quite a keen interest in the supply of raw cows milk !!!

http://www.competition-commission.or...iew/cc2000.pdf

page 19 if you're interested.

XFO1-11 7th May 2002 20:59

Notso,

So CD has been working for someone else. Stikes me that with the state of UK pilot salaries we could have used a bit more of his time.

How long has he been doing it?

Regards,
XFO1-11


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