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Unixman 12th Feb 2022 20:12

Strange happenings over the Eastern Med
 
Royal Jordanian RJA112A circling off Cyprus; Wizz3017 diverted to Larnaca;

Imagegear 12th Feb 2022 20:20

Several other aircraft are affected in the area - possibly GPS "Interference".

IG

ATC Watcher 13th Feb 2022 05:39

Or simply temporary closure of Israeli airspace , will not be the first time .

3Greens 13th Feb 2022 08:47

GPS Jamming has been taking place there for years. Always get ads outages on approach to LCA and even as far as CAI

rudestuff 13th Feb 2022 10:10


Originally Posted by Imagegear (Post 11183561)
Several other aircraft are affected in the area - possibly GPS "Interference".

IG

Planes fly perfectly well without GPS.

Imagegear 13th Feb 2022 10:40

rudestuff

Indeed they do, however judging by the Royal Jordanian attempt to fly a rather wobbly racetrack pattern (I will not call it a hold) while waiting to "cross the gap" would suggest that navigational accuracy is somewhat compromised.

Not to mention the other aircraft transit[ng the airspace north to south suddenly being vectored 90 degrees off track to the West, disappearing of ADSB in the process, on another wobbly effort suggests that the problems were not confined to one aircraft.

IG

DaveReidUK 13th Feb 2022 10:50


Originally Posted by Imagegear (Post 11183742)
Indeed they do, however judging by the Royal Jordanian attempt to fly a rather wobbly racetrack pattern (I will not call it a hold) while waiting to "cross the gap" would suggest that navigational accuracy is somewhat compromised.

I suspect that the instantaneous 90° turns visible on the ADS-B track don't reflect the actual trajectory of the aircraft.

Imagegear 13th Feb 2022 11:00

That aircraft did return to ADSB and continued the West bound track after initially dropping off. I did not wait for it to return back onto it's proper course.

IG

wiggy 13th Feb 2022 11:52

FWIW the couple of times I experienced basic GPS jamming over the eastern Med I’m pretty sure the effect would have been invisible on Flightradar or similar tracking sites.

On both occasions the nav system worked as advertised and effectively kicked the GPS updating into touch. IRS/FMC handled the few seconds without radio aid updating fine (no surprise there) and I don’t think aircraft twitched once we enabled VOR/DME updating.


Clandestino 13th Feb 2022 13:56

Have a look at today's TK7709 (TLV-SAW) track on FlightRadar24. Quite a twitch, isn't it?

DaveReidUK 13th Feb 2022 15:19


Originally Posted by Clandestino (Post 11183821)
Have a look at today's TK7709 (TLV-SAW) track on FlightRadar24. Quite a twitch, isn't it?

It is indeed. The first two plot points, a tad over 300 nm apart, were traversed in just under 10 minutes - that's a GS of around 2,000 kts ...

Now we know what's been happening, no more spurious FR24 plots, please !


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