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Musket90 6th Jan 2021 19:44

Star Air B767 Freighter Callsigns
 
I notice this evening on FR24 a couple of Star Air B767-2 freighters operating BFS and EDI to EMA are showing Titan Airways flight prefix (AWC). Is this because of CAA requirements post leaving EU and UK domestic flights ?

SpringHeeledJack 7th Jan 2021 06:52

I'd say that that is as good a conclusion as any. They continue to operate normal schedules until things settle down, or they get a UK AOC.

dixi188 7th Jan 2021 13:28

There used to be a lot of this sort of thing about 20 years ago, before some EU treaty or other.
I remember using Channex, Heavylift, Eurotrans, Speedbird, Nitro, Qualitay, Whitestar, depending who had the route license for the operation.
Now we are out I guess it's back to that.
I never quite understood why the EU allowed N reg. aircraft with American crews to operate internal European cargo flights. (Fedex and UPS).

SpringHeeledJack 7th Jan 2021 15:26


I never quite understood why the EU allowed N reg. aircraft with American crews to operate internal European cargo flights. (Fedex and UPS).
I think that it's grossly unfair to EU and UK crews and airlines, but they get away with it as the flights originate and finish in the US and Uncle Sam has some right to operate that 'we' don't in the US. It should be EU/UK crews and regd aircraft for the euro sectors and just N-reg for the US-STN/CDG/CGN etc.

Pistonprop 8th Jan 2021 10:19

Except that (with Fedex for sure) they have European based N registered B757s.

Boeing Jet 8th Jan 2021 10:47

American Express One International 727's used to operate different sectors inside Europe, during the 90's got to fly with them a few times!

crewmeal 9th Jan 2021 09:53

It's a shame thery don't carry on the Maersk tradition of using "Blue star" as a call sign.

dixi188 9th Jan 2021 12:07


Originally Posted by crewmeal (Post 10963856)
It's a shame thery don't carry on the Maersk tradition of using "Blue star" as a call sign.

IIRC it was "White Star."
Blue background with a white star.

DaveReidUK 9th Jan 2021 15:22

Whitestar belonged to Maersk subsidiary Star Air. Bluestar was Maersk Air UK.

Maersk Air themselves used the stunningly unoriginal callsign Maerskair. :O

bar none 9th Jan 2021 15:51


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 10962567)
There used to be a lot of this sort of thing about 20 years ago, before some EU treaty or other.
I remember using Channex, Heavylift, Eurotrans, Speedbird, Nitro, Qualitay, Whitestar, depending who had the route license for the operation.
Now we are out I guess it's back to that.
I never quite understood why the EU allowed N reg. aircraft with American crews to operate internal European cargo flights. (Fedex and UPS).

I vaguely seem to recall in the dim and distant past that when Bermuda 2 air bilateral was agreed in 1977 as part of the deal to allow the increased access of UK carriers to US cities and vice versa the Americans insisted that US cargo carriers had unlimited traffic rights ex the UK despite UK carriers not being able to fly within the USA.I suspect that this still applies today.

hec7or 9th Jan 2021 16:06


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10964149)
Whitestar belonged to Maersk subsidiary Star Air. Bluestar was Maersk Air UK.

Maersk Air themselves used the stunningly unoriginal callsign Maerskair. :O

Except there was no such company as Maersk Air UK, it was Maersk Air Limited (Wikipedia has got it wrong)
The name Air UK belonged to another airline and so Maersk couldn't use it in the title.


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