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So, just for an explanation..... for those that need it.

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I might one day make the transition to helicopter pilot, but for now will keep to the FW forum. I have been using FS98 since, well 1998, so the other members see me as a sort of ‘Jesus’ in a way.

Well, there's another head scratcher..............

I wonder what the 'FW' stands for?

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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged (Post 10686290)

I wonder what the 'FW' stands for?

Standard abbreviation for Fixed-Wing, as opposed to RW (rotary).

Our friend hasn't quite mastered the trick of appearing to be an amateur. :O

It's all nonsense of course. Depends on the SID/SDR and the STAR/vectoring/holding at the other end. No defined parameters. Just encourages the "mine's bigger than your's" crowd, which we already get a lot of on Prune.

This is all very well and groovy, but what about the chemtrail coverage? Surely at that speed the nano-particles will be dispersed too thinly.

I was thinking more along the lines of F-wit...

A record is not a record until it has been certified by the FAI (Fédération Aéronautique Internationale). They require that a record attempt should be notified in advance and that the time is measured from over the top of the departure tower to over the top of the destination tower. The tower operators log the times and advise the FAI. The FAI website is www.fai.org/records. If you are interested to view their records for airliners (Class B) go to record I.D. 1766 which should show the fastest sector time in history as certified by the FAI. (1132 Km/hr from memory. Perth to Melbourne) If the entry is still green then it is still current for that sector. Just for interest, for that particular attempt, the cowboy irrresponsible crossed Perth tower in his B727-100 at 350 Kias, cruised at M.87, and again crossed Tullamarine tower at 350Kias at 2000 ft! 2 hrs 11 mins I think.

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Originally Posted by Young Daedalus (Post 10687147)

As already explained a bit above, a normal scheduled airline flight can be certified as a record in its own class ("speed over commercial air route") without overflying specific points and without advance notification. You just need the departure and arrival ATC units to certify your take-off and landing times and mail or fax them to the FAI plus your own paperwork. US based pilots are even allowed to use ACARS for certification under NAA rules.

Anything else posted on a forum or observed on flightradar24 is an impressive feat but not a record.

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Originally Posted by A340Yumyum (Post 10685708)

All aircraft have to have airspeedometers, it is a legal requirement for, say, when you cross the Atlantic. They are required so you can make ETAs over waypoints and stuff. They also tell you how fast you are going for take-off and bits like that.

And (Atlas Shrugged) the 744 also has a Machometer (for using above high ground); it displays on the bottom LH corner of the artificial horizon display.

I am between job’s at the moment (I teach English so am good at reading the manual’s) and have plenty of time to read the operating note’s and reflect. I remember pre-911, I was invited to the cockpit of a 747-400. The pilot definitely told me that it had 2 gauge’s and the machometer automatically turned on as you got faster. It was also interesting because the 747-400 was a modification to the 747 (Classical, they called it) so it could be flown single pilot as the flap’s and gear’s were all automatic.

I believe the removal of pilot’s from some trip’s (as mentioned in another thread) as a cost saving measure proves this.

You "teach English"? Do you teach your students that all plurals require an apostrophe before the final "s"? No wonder it's such a common mistake nowadays.

Perhaps that's why you're currently unemployed.

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All aircraft have to have airspeedometers, it is a legal requirement for, say

False. If you check the official definition of what aircraft are it will become clear why not all aircraft are required to have airspeed indicators or machmeters.. If you had said aeroplane you would have been correct.

A340YY is having a laugh. I can't believe anyone is still taking his/her posts at face value.

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Originally Posted by A340Yumyum (Post 10684593)

What utter nonsense - I really can't believe what I am reading. The 747 is limited to around 320kts (I know as that's the red tape on my FS). At '800' kts, the wings would definitely fall off; no sub-sonic aircraft could fly that fast, it would break up.
I have looked at all the commercial jet parameters on my flight sim and none of them is certified for anything near 800kts.

Now we know why A340YY had such skewed "knowledge" - he has a flight sim that has bad info! If he had a real 744 manual or sim, the "red tape" would be at 366 KIAS or 0.92 MACH!

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All aircraft have to have airspeedometers

Yeah, my balloon has an airspeedometer and a Machometer, both of which read Zero in flight.