Tail wind tall tale?
I read yesterday an item written by a reputable person who is also a private pilot, seemingly indicating that he experienced a 168 mph tail wind on January 1, providing a ground speed of 657 mph, I believe heading east across the US toward Washington, D.C. Is that possible? I can't provide a link, but it's in a tweet dated January 1 of @JamesFallows.
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200kts+ jetstreams are not uncommon .That's 230mph+.
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I had a 220kt tailwind once over Newfoundland, giving me a groundspeed of over 700kts. |
I can't provide any private flight tall tailwind tales, but in the 90's flew in a UTA DC-10-30 from MIA-CDG in 5hrs 20mins approx due to extremely strong tailwinds. Like being on a Transatlantic travelator ;-)
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I remember my mother, who was deathly afraid of flying until she discovered the miracle combination of valium and bourbon, bragging about setting a speed record between KLAX and KLGA aboard a Convair 990 Coronado in 1963. Total elapsed time was slightly more than four and one-half hours; they had ridden a strong jet stream the entire journey.
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Landing a CV990 at LGA must have been fun
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There is currently (Thurs 3rd) an area of 160kt jet stream winds positioned over the north-east USA. This would have been positoned over the center of the country previously.
Weather model charts show it as being about 500nm long (E-W) and 200 wide N-S), with much lower speeds outside that region (and at lower altitudes). A flight plan would be able to take advantage of the winds, but the whole route could not be at top speed. |
Originally Posted by eckhard
(Post 10350960)
I had a 220kt tailwind once over Newfoundland, giving me a groundspeed of over 700kts.
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For some reason my photographic evidence doesn’t upload but recently over NE Russia we experienced OAT of -71C at FL320 which is a personal record for me. Couple of months ago, same area of operations we hit 185kt headwinds and miserable turbulence. |
200kts+ jetstreams are not uncommon .That's 230mph+. |
I had a 200kt headwind once from SIN- LHR in a 777 - looking down over Romania we were just about catching traffic on the Interstate/Autobahn.................
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I did a quick flip through some flight tracks on 1Jan, and the fastest I could find was a B787 LAX-LHR. Peak ground speed was 735mph, with a filed speed of 564mph, giving a tail wind of about 171mph.
The total flight time was about 45mins shorter than average, because only a limited duration was spent inside the jet-stream. The track was longer in distance than the great-circle route, but still faster overall. Obviously flights in the opposite direction use a more polar route to avoid the head winds. |
Tail Winds
I came back on MH1 23rd December 2018, 2 hours into the flight the screen was showing 172kph tail wind and OAT -71°C
Nothing spectacular but could have been chilly if someone opened a window. |
Originally Posted by B2N2
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For some reason my photographic evidence doesn’t upload |
Originally Posted by 2016parks
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I read yesterday an item written by a reputable person who is also a private pilot, seemingly indicating that he experienced a 168 mph tail wind on January 1, providing a ground speed of 657 mph, I believe heading east across the US toward Washington, D.C. Is that possible? I can't provide a link, but it's in a tweet dated January 1 of @JamesFallows.
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Bad curry at a UK layover ? |
My uncle reported from his Qantas flight over the GAFA that the wind was 270/270 (270 kts from the west.) rather fast.
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Virgin Atlantic 787 - 801mph ground speed yesterday over Pennsylvania - 48 minutes early.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...=.d17220d33887 |
On a flight from Manila to Narita in the early 90's on a 747 - 200 photographed the no3 INS showing a groundspeed in excess of 700Kts and a wind on the tail of 200+ knots. There was no turbulence. Next day on the way back a much lower altitude was requested to try to get underneath - not much better.
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