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Fonsini 7th Jan 2017 19:56

MH370 - a new lead ?
 
An exclusive on the Daily Beast, the search vessel Equator was suddenly stopped mid-sweep and directed 200 miles North.

I hope this leads to some type of resolution for all concerned.

MH370 Found? Searchers Race to New Site - The Daily Beast

p.j.m 7th Jan 2017 21:37


Originally Posted by Fonsini (Post 9633457)
An exclusive on the Daily Beast, the search vessel Equator was suddenly stopped mid-sweep and directed 200 miles North.

If they find it around 25S 101E where Ocean Shield and Haixun-01 originally detected the pings, there's going to be a lot of questions asked about why the military diverted the search AWAY from that area!

HEMS driver 7th Jan 2017 22:46

This could turn into a career, like the scam search for Amelia Earhart.

atpcliff 8th Jan 2017 08:33

They found Amelia at the time of her crash, and they have now found her remains.

Alsacienne 8th Jan 2017 08:36

For the sake of those who lost loved ones, I hope that the search continues and that wreckage is found. And to confound the conspiracy theorists.

onetrack 9th Jan 2017 00:16

The supposed new search zone seems to be around 32°S to 33°S on the 7th arc. This area contains the deep ravine called the Diamantina Fracture Zone, located on the Southern End of Broken Ridge.
This ravine plunges to 1400M below the surrounding sea bed in the 7th arc search area.
The ravine runs approximately NW to SE, and its SE section contains the Diamantina Trench and the Diamantina Deep, one of the worlds deepest ocean trenches, measured in 1961 by the Australian oceanographic research vessel, the Diamantina, at 8,047M (26,401').

Diamantina Fracture Zone

Broken Ridge is indicated on many photos, including ATSB snapshots, as being the actual ravine. The truth is that Broken Ridge is a plateau that runs N/NE from the Diamantina Fracture Zone - and the Southern side of Broken Ridge is a steep escarpment that plunges up to 3000M within short distances, making for one very steep face.

ATSB MH370 search map

New seamounts discovered on Broken Ridge

What is interesting is that the search has uncovered, with clear imaging, a steel tank or steel box from a shipwreck, a 19th century iron shipwreck, and even a 200 litre steel oil drum.
I'm a little surprised that a lot more general seabed litter and debris hasn't been discovered; but the seabed in the region appears to be relatively clean, possibly due to the limited amount of shipping travelling this region.

Metal tank found in MH370 search

ATSB - MH370 search images

I'm fully expecting the wreckage of MH370 will eventually be found, and it will quite likely be found in a ravine, or a steep part of the Broken Ridge escarpment which has helped to hide it for so long.

What is puzzling is that aircraft wreckage on the seabed generally leaves a trail of wreckage over a distance, and one would have expected at least one modest-size component would have been picked up by now.
The inference from the total lack of seabed MH370 debris finds, is that they are definitely looking in all the wrong places, and the flight distance calculations need re-examining.

ATSB - Summary of possible MH370 debris finds

StevenG Kiwi 8th Aug 2017 04:21

Sorry for having nothing but questions, but here goes. It seems to me that the debris found from MH370 are parts that might come off in a controlled entry into the sea or were separated by under sea currents. If the fuselage had broken, on entering the sea, many light parts would have been found either in the original surface search at the drift destinations. Have we found them? Question two. Would such an aircraft stay in a stable flight mode when the first engine fails due to loss of fuel? would an autopilot or inherit stability reestablish a glide (when the second engine failed) that would give this slow and gentle entry into the sea, or would it require someone at the controls?

MG23 8th Aug 2017 04:27

Everything found so far is consistent with a high-speed impact. The flaps were probably up when they detached, and you're not likely to find pieces of seats floating away if the aircraft was mostly intact.

BTW, apparently the Malaysian government are talking to a company who have offered to conduct a search for free so long as they're paid if they find the aircraft. So we might finally get some answers soon.

New hope for families of missing MH370 passengers | News24

Harry Wayfarers 8th Aug 2017 04:34

Many of us watched CCTV coverage of Sully's glide in to the relatively smooth Hudson, at something like the supposedly perfect 11 degrees or whatever, and still he managed to bust the fuselage.

I can't see that MH370 made any sport of controlled entry in to an ocean, particularly if as suspected the fuel tanks had run dry.

Patanom 5th Apr 2018 02:32

5 Attachment(s)
I sent this letter to the site MH370 (here a few changes). No answer.

"Hello.

Look for the MH-370, I think, in an area 30 miles radius from the IGARI point, not in the Indian Ocean.

1. Pings from MH-370. They have such a value in accordance with the effect of Doppler,
because the plane was fading and one of the crew or passengers was able to connect
satellite station SAT2100 to the battery. 18:22 pings resumed after 17:07, (hour ping missed - 18:07)
and this can be explained only by finding the plane on the water, the frequency of the reference
generator at the first moment of the connection is unstable (the thermostat did not warm up), therefore
on the Doppler diagram such an ejection. Also in this short period he tries three times login
it is also associated with a cold start and, possibly, with bad contact the battery.
Most likely, after 6 hours, the water reached the SAT2100 antenna and pings ceased
(and at the end the terminal was probably trying again to log in, because the water briefly covered
the antenna - so the last ping has a non-hour interval).
If we take the velocity to be 0 (only the current is about 0.2-0.3 knots to the northeast, north), then the line will be almost
parallel to the time axis. (pic. Master_compare_northerly).

2. 17:21 The transponder has stopped working
17:22 The plane disappeared from the field of view of the Thai radar
17:30 Witnesses in Kota Baru and others on the coast speak of a rapidly declining plane.
(for example, maximum range of visibility of the aircraft ~ 225 km).
17:37 The expected ACARS did not come.

3. The co-pilot called the cell phone and this call was fixed. Because in Malaysia
The CDMA cellular communication standard is used, and the distance over the passage (which is
occurs at frequencies of 430 MHz (amateur radio range, very close to the range
CDMA - 450 MHz) around midnight on the local and the days of the autumn and spring equinox.
On the other hand, the GSM of the theoretical cell range is 37.5 km, (in practice - 30-35 km).

4. The world radio amateur system APRS received twice the signal- on March 11 around midnight
(there are no coordinates, since the information is stored on the server for 30 days, the second signal is received on March 17
2014 also around midnight with coordinates - 7 33.55 N 103 42.64 E. The current there is N-NE to 0.3 knots.
The mobile phone with the APRS application could have been released on some plastic container
with positive buoyancy.

5. The aircraft successfully faded and sank entirely by the morning of March 8. Therefore there are no debris, fuel
etc. The only thing is the tailgate's door - she was afloat and supposedly seen
On March 8, and then, after 2 years, fishermen were found ashore. The place corresponds to currents and speed
them in the Gulf of Thailand."


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