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susier 18th Jul 2015 06:56

Lovely 747-409 last night from nr Stansted
 
Watched this stately creature at around FL100 going over our house yesterday, such a beautiful sight and I tried to track it on FR but it fell off T-MLAT and T-EST somewhere near Crete.


Anyone know where it was going? Saudi? Squawking 3015 IIRC (Transit)


Thank you.

SpringHeeledJack 18th Jul 2015 07:52

Most likely a Kingdom Holdings VIP aircraft heading to Saudi.


SHJ

susier 18th Jul 2015 09:08

Thank you very much. <goes to google>


It was on FR looking huge and I looked out the window by my desk and there it was - clear as day - just slowly, slowly, steadily rolling along in the dusk.


Like it didn't even have to ask, everything else would just move out of the way...I can see where it gets its nickname.


Such a treat as nothing interesting passes over here too often :) Last thing was an Antonov a few weeks back.

SpringHeeledJack 18th Jul 2015 09:12

It either was, or is Eid, the festival at the end of Ramadan, so no doubt transporting people back to a family gathering at home.


SHJ

susier 18th Jul 2015 09:14

Oh cool :)

DaveReidUK 18th Jul 2015 18:58

Lovely 747-409 last night from nr Stansted
 
Do you have an identity for it ?

I'm curious because, apart from a couple of freighters and two of the Dreamlifters, all the 747-409s in service are with Air China (409 is their customer designator).

susier 18th Jul 2015 20:05

Hi there Mr Reid,


Well, all it had was B74S on FR, no reg number, http://www.flightradar24.com/2015-07...x/B74S/6d5943b


I am sorry, I'm probably wrong about the model. SP44? I was trying to find out info about it. Hope the link works - turn the clock back to 16:49 UTC on 17th July and you can see it just above Kent.


Hope this helps - please do tell me what you know, I'm fascinated :)

susier 18th Jul 2015 20:15

Looks like there are only 18 of them about still? I mean flying. another 9 hanging about on the ground and another 18 scrapped.


List here: Production List - Boeing 747SP Website


Isn't 'Never built' one of the saddest phrases ever? :{

boeing_eng 18th Jul 2015 22:10

747SP HZ-HM1B was in STN yesterday

DaveReidUK 18th Jul 2015 22:57


I am sorry, I'm probably wrong about the model. SP44? I was trying to find out info about it. Hope the link works - turn the clock back to 16:49 UTC on 17th July and you can see it just above Kent.
FlightRadar24 strikes again. :O

As per Boeing_Eng's post, it was HZ-HM1B, a 747SP-68.

I have no idea where FlightRadar got the idea it could have been a 747SP-44 - of the 6 of that variant built, one is in a museum, 4 were scrapped and one written off.

Nice looking aeroplane, anyway:

http://cdn1.airplane-pictures.net/im...1/482797as.jpg

El Bunto 19th Jul 2015 05:26


I have no idea where FlightRadar got the idea it could have been a 747SP-44

A data error that you can suggest for correction here:

Flightradar24 database (aircraft, routes and airports)


Would it have mattered anyway if it said SP-68? The OP didn't pay any attention to it apparently. If he'd just pasted-in B74S from the screen in the first place this query could have been resolved in 10 mins instead of dragging on into the night.

susier 19th Jul 2015 06:17

Thank you Dave Reid for the correction and the pic : )


I did pay attention. I scrutinised the page for a good while trying to find out what it was, if I could get a registration somehow from the data available, and so on. The problem is that I know very little about planes in spite of liking them so much, and got confused. I also don't understand FR very well.


I wasn't trying to show off by sounding clever (or even like I have any basic knowledge which is, to be fair, pretty scant). I just wanted to share what I had seen as it looked so nice in the sky, and tried to get the terminology right, but failed.



My apologies. (I'm not a bloke by the way - it's Susie-R - you couldn't know that so no worries)

treadigraph 19th Jul 2015 07:59

Love the SP, still remember seeing one for the first time in 1976, one of Pan Am's over my school heading to Heathrow. Lovely sunny morning, just like today.

Nice to still see them occasionally.

mutt 19th Jul 2015 18:01

Are you sure that it was HZ-HM1B on the 18th?

Hartington 19th Jul 2015 18:55

I got taken round the United base at SFO not long after they acquired part of Pan Am. One of the places we went was through the stripped out fuselage of an ex Pan Am SP and the person taking me around was VERY uncomplimentary about the state they had received the planes in.

susier 19th Jul 2015 20:20

Mutt, I have genuinely no idea but I am sure someone will be able to sort this out. Whatever it was, was very pretty.

boeing_eng 19th Jul 2015 21:15

HZ-HM1B - Boeing B747SP-68 [B74S] c/n: 21652 ln: 329

DaveReidUK 19th Jul 2015 22:31


Are you sure that it was HZ-HM1B on the 18th?
Well two of us have confirmed that it was. What would you accept as evidence that we're telling the truth?

mutt 20th Jul 2015 08:51

No problem, thanks :)

trident3A 20th Jul 2015 16:12

A rare treat to see an SP these days but the VIP ones still pop up from time to time.


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