B787 diverts do LPLA due ENG problem
 

For those who have FB account,Lajes Rescue Control Center page :

https://www.facebook.com/rescuecoord...39399766186579

Basically it says 787 shut down one engine, and all the SAR staff&devices put on high alert due to a probable ditching at sea. (Wich thankfully didnt occur).

Here´s a pic hours ago:

http://newsavia.com/boeing-787-8-dre...rea-das-lajes/

Love this comment: "Look how the display shows Thomson 157 as a 'quadrimotor'!"

And another: "This is a 787, the first visit of this model to the Azores!" :D

This will be the second safety landing of G-TUIE in less than a week. The previous one was on 30 July on a flight from EMA to CUN (TOM644) where G-TUIE after 7 hours and 20 minutes in the air returned and made a safe landing at MAN. Maybe Thomson too has got one of those B788 lemons?

Very funny jolihokistix :hmm:

Hope they enjoy the stop-over in Lajes. I have had many memorable nights there in the past.

411
 

I had a few nights there, but can't say I remember many of them !

Which engine/FADEC version is on this aircraft?
Would the high-alt icing restrictions apply?
Were there Cbs on route?

General Electric Engines are fitted to the Thomson Dreamliner Fleet.

The "placed on high alert due to probable ditching at sea" interests me... I'm guessing this would be because of the likelihood of the other engine packing in rather than not being able to make it on one engine?

Sensationalising or near miss?

Sensationalising

787 Engine shut down
 

Mods: Previous thread on the recent 787 Engine shut down, moved to spotters corner !! ???
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...ml#post8595079

Relatively new aircraft, recent ETOPS approval, technical failure or other; surely there must be some professional safety interest.

Add to that some background problems with the engine (on 747-8)
Three engines damaged during 747-8F ice encounter - 8/22/2013 - Flight Global

Which resulted in an airworthiness restriction for 747-8 and 787
GEnx icing issue prompts 747-8, 787 restriction, route withdrawals - 11/24/2013 - Flight Global

and a potential link with similar threat conditions (ice crystal icing), the same as AF447 (or have we short memories) … …
and a rumour of concern about the other engine.

787 Engine shut down … Safety 1 to Safety 2
 

The previous attempt to raise this issue – as below, has also been parked in spotters corner. Please afford the curtesy of explaining why.
Are events to be dismissed summarily at a Mod’s whim, without further consideration?
How might we know if the event is ‘Pprune newsworthy’ without first understanding the situation?

Is this a prejudgement of ‘only a minor incident’ or an incident not involving sensational graphic content; a choice which degrads Pprune ‘Rumours and News’ to tabloid content? No Disaster, Death, or Destruction, no opportunity to allocate error, blame and train; is the media appetite such that we do not wish to discuss underlying professional issues which might help us to safer operation.

Current levels of safety are very good, yet in order to improve new approaches are required; e.g. Safety 1 to Safety 2. One aspect of this involves looking at normal operations, what goes well, including the successes from minor events. If this is a ‘minor’ event, then let this be understood and shared so we might celebrate the success, learn from it and employ the activities as best practice.

We have a professional duty to improve; spotters might only wish log the event and park it as a statistic.


Mods: Previous thread on the recent 787 Engine shut down moved to spotters corner !! ???
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...ml#post8595079

Relatively new aircraft, recent ETOPS approval, technical failure or other; surely there must be some professional safety interest.

Add to that some background problems with the engine (on 747-8)
Three engines damaged during 747-8F ice encounter - 8/22/2013 - Flight Global

Which resulted in an airworthiness restriction for 747-8 and 787
GEnx icing issue prompts 747-8, 787 restriction, route withdrawals - 11/24/2013 - Flight Global

and a potential link with similar threat conditions (ice crystal icing), the same as AF447 (or have we short memories) … … and a rumour of concern about the other engine.

Your very well expressed post is by itself enlightening, and of course the folks at Boeing have caused no little attention to be focused on their Dreamliner(trademark).

Perfectly sensible and well reasoned at least to me. Obviously not so important to the anointed ones around here.....be careful with your questions of their operating decisions, which so often seem to be like a game of rock-paper-scissors:8

Safetypee


It's been over 14 hours since the original post, so far we have a blog post (that the link doesn't work) and a facebook post. Nothing at all in the media (or elsewhere) - this for an airplane that the media has jumped on every single anomaly as if the 787 was the biggest deathtrap since Auschwitz.:ugh:


Isn't your BS detector buzzing even a little?

tdracer; are you suggesting this didn't really happen?
avherald has a photo of the aircraft on the ground at Laje, details of which engine failed, the cause of the failure (low engine oil pressure) and even details of the B767 sent from Manchester to collect the passengers.

Try this one which seems to have made it heavily edited through the burying process.

Trans-Atlantic Thomson flight makes emergency landing on Portugal?s Azores islands - The Portugal News

Quote: "The plane, carrying 288 passengers, mostly British nationals, was en route from the Dominican Republic to Manchester when the emergency landing was requested. The twin-engine aircraft touched down at Lajes at 4.13am Lisbon time. The passengers were later flown to Manchester on a replacement aircraft at 12.36pm. Portuguese rescue services told Lusa News Agency the incident was the result of technical problems recorded on the plane."

Well said safetypee.

Given the amount of publicity given to yesterday's Qatar incident, I'm amazed that the passengers involved in the diversion haven't been in touch with the media, especially given that the same aircraft appears to have been involved in a similar incident within the previous 48 hours.

Thomson Airways Boeing 787-800, registration G-TUIE performing flight BY-157
 

On 5th August G-TUIE 787 only delivered in July apparently. Shut down engine (GEnx) due to low oil pressure, FL410 550nm west of Terceira Island (Portugal). Landed @ Terceira's Lajes airport about 90mins later.
Engine going to be replaced!