If that is the case (lack of information always leads to big speculation :O) then the MLG should not have gone up.

Absolutely wrong.

After pushback is completed the NWS bypass pin (the only one fitted) is removed and shown, when you are clear on the left or right to the flt deck prior to them taxiing away.

It would be a bit difficult to return it to the flt deck at that point, and in any case the 744 pins are not stowed on the flt deck but in the MEC.

Actually, spanners, Absolutely right'. You are confusing the NWS pin with the gear locking pin. We all know there are 'pins' in the tugs and the engineers' boxes, but there should only be the one - in the flight deck stowage.

Well, I beg to disagree, having worked on 747's for over 20 years I have never been on one that has gear pins in the flight deck.

Gear pins are stowed in their stowage in the MEC.

Begging acknowledged - the 737 did not have an MEC - but you were confusing the NWS pin with the gear locking pin, no?

I know for sure that Thai B747s have the lock pins stowed in the flight deck so it depends on the airline. QF, BA in the MEC and possibly MH (cannot remember at this time)

Well when I left the BA 744 fleet 18 months ago they definitely had the gear locking pins stowed on the flight-deck. We had to check that they were all there and I'm sure most of us checked the gear for 'rogue pins' on the walk-round as well. If any pins were installed in the gear, a tech-log entry was left open until they were removed and re-stowed on the flight-deck.

Where exactly on the flight deck eckhard ?
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Don't know why the "quote" function doesn't work but..

spannersatcx wrote: Well, I beg to disagree, having worked on 747's for over 20 years I have never been on one that has gear pins in the flight deck.

Gear pins are stowed in their stowage in the MEC.


Well Spanners you've never been on a BA 747-400 then, as their gear pins are definitely on the flight deck..:)

All the talk about pins is way off the mark, there were NO pins left in....but the answer is out there somewhere....:ok:

And now the already delayed inbound HKG-LHR sector, operated by YGF, has diverted into PEK with a medical emergency!

BA's 744/777/787 all have their gear pins in a stowage in the flight deck!

must be a BA thing then. :eek:

Diverting again! Into CPH. Due to crew hours this time. Poor passengers!

Why would you put crew on a flight when you know they will run over?

:D:confused:

If it wasn`t for the earlier medical emergency they wouldn`t of.

If it wasn`t for the earlier medical emergency they wouldn`t of.

They didn't. The flight diverted into Beijing on the way from HKG to LHR, due to a medical emergency. The crew did not then have enough hours to make LHR so operated to CPH where another crew had been positioned to operate to LHR.