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Bogey71 3rd Aug 2013 19:34

RAF Tornado near miss with glider
 
Stumbled over this page. Is it really possible for a tornado travelling 500 mph to do such a maneuver? I think he was low-level flying. If he really did that without impacting the ground, the negative Gs must have sent his blood pressure in the head to astronomical levels.....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Crazyaviationcom/160488930648-

Edit: On the facebook page, it's the first link (top left) called "close call"

DaveReidUK 3rd Aug 2013 20:43

From the McGraw-Hill Dictionary of Aviation:

Bunt:

i. An outside loop in which the aircraft remains on the outside throughout the maneuver.

ii. A maneuver involving a negative g pushover

The DM has assumed, wrongly, that the reference to the Tornado performing a bunt means the former (which, given that the Tornado was at 250' AGL, was clearly impossible).

From the Airprox report:

"Whilst transiting along the W side of the River Spey valley, heading 045° at 420kt and 250ft AGL and keeping clear of the Highland Wildlife Park to the W, he saw a glider at an estimated range of 500m, slightly above and to the L, which had been hidden behind the canopy arch. He bunted and passed 100ft below it." [my emphasis]

In other words, the DM's graphic is pure :mad::

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...46_964x582.jpg

TURIN 3rd Aug 2013 21:16

The glider uses the updraft from the Tornado to climb 50ft? :D:D:D

Load Toad 4th Aug 2013 02:47

It's been covered, dissected and ridiculed on Military Aircrew already.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...oid-crash.html

Agaricus bisporus 4th Aug 2013 12:28

"Back flipped"

Surely that phrase alone indicates the level of factual accuracy the rest of the article is likely to contain?

Good old daily fail.

Hartington 5th Aug 2013 19:24

Back in the early 70s I went gliding at the Cairngorm Gliding Club at Feshiebridge between Aviemore and Kingussie. Lovely part of the world with a ridge running paralell to the runway so with the wind blowing on to the ridge (which it did quite a lot) you could get a quite reasonable time in the air with the winch launch they used at the time.

One day, most of us were lazing on the ground watching the T-21 beating up and down the ridge when we heard a jet. A Canberra came up the valley, passed beneath the glider and continued on his merry way. No bunt, no panic, just happened.


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