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Hermit of HIRF 13th Aug 2012 21:32

Fact: Stranger than Fiction?
 
Hi all,

Sorry if the post is in the incorrect place but I think I will get some good answers if I post here. I have a question that had been really bugging me for some time so I am hoping someone will have some info.

About a year ago a friend of mine came into contact with a gentlemen (let's call him Jim) who said he was a keen pilot, he flies general aviation aircraft having a share in two aircraft at the local airfield which he flies every month. Great I thought, seems like a nice guy and I guess it never hurts to know a pilot!

Then comes the pill that is hard to swallow. Jim says that despite working for a local utility firm that in his 'spare' time he flies for large airliners regularly doing routes from London to Hong Kong. What's more is that (according to Jim) he flies the A380. I think so far he has mentioned Emirates (for sure), United Airlines (I think) and American Airlines (I think). At this point I must say that I am not a complete novice to the field of aviation, whilst studying at Uni I did a stint for a helicopter systems integrator working on research programme. The team were looking at new HMI systems for the cockpit for both fixed and rotary wing platforms and during my time there I learnt a bit about large aircraft (A380) and looked into the requirements for becoming a pilot. Suffice to say I found his story more than a little dubious. Over the past months I have repeatedly tried to understand a little more about his story, but since I don't know him personally that well, and I don't want be rude I have tried the soft approach.

So far I can work out that Jim got his PPL years ago and got a Multi-Engine License (not sure if thats the right terminology) just for fun. From there Jim is a little cagey about how long it took him to get a full professional license but suffice to say Emirates and United are happy to call him whenever they need him and although he does not get paid for his services he gets some perks including free flights every year and medical checks.

On the face he seems a nice guy but I just don't want to believe it - it seems too good to be true. So my question is this possible? Any facts or info would be really appreciated but better than that is there anyway I can check? A database maybe with everyone in the UK with the right qualifications to fly an A380?

Thanks in advance.

99jolegg 13th Aug 2012 22:51

Sounds like absolute rubbish...airlines don't go around employing random contractors to fly A380s; that's what they employ people to do. They certainly wouldn't ask people to do it for free.

Contractors are used in some airlines, but not as far as I'm aware at any of the airlines you've named but could be wrong.

Nervous SLF 13th Aug 2012 23:55

Do not lend him money and check very carefully before you buy anything from him.

Dave Clarke Fife 14th Aug 2012 01:48

The only way he would be flying for Emirates on the A380 would have been ( in 99.9% of all their pilots) after having previously accrued many many hours on A330/340 or B777 as a full time employee of EK. No contractors as previously stated. There is a faint whiff of bovine excrement about this. In the military there is a term used for this sort of character......Walt. Nuff said

Oh, and emirates don't do London -Hong Kong direct either😉

parabellum 14th Aug 2012 02:33

Total BS from start to finish. Do some easy homework on the A380, engines, take-off thrust, zero fuel weights, max take off weights, max landing weights etc. innocently ask a few questions, one or two questions should be enough.

aviate1138 14th Aug 2012 06:37

Ah! Walter Mitty lives on! Only Danny Kaye film I liked. "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" by James Thurber.

Wal·ter Mit·ty
n.
An ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs.

Sad that Walts have to spend their lives living a massive lie. He needs help. Some can be a right nuisance.

JEM60 14th Aug 2012 06:41

Only a faint wiff of bovine excrement??? It's smelling the whole place out.!!!! Complete and utter rubbish. The guy obviously has an image problem. I'm a PPL and I wonder if he is even that!. Walter Mitty........

marcoalza 14th Aug 2012 07:10

Tommy Pepper if ever.

Ask him some good questions as PB suggested, sus him out then kick his head in :E

PhineasC 14th Aug 2012 07:29

What do you gain by bursting his bubble?

The SSK 14th Aug 2012 07:50

Years ago, a bloke down my boozer, balloon pilot, used to odd-job on dodgy 707s with third-world registrations flying special cargoes down to Libya (not from UK I hasten to mention). And that was for real. But he didn't make a habit of boasting about it.

Lookleft 14th Aug 2012 08:23

Possibly a "virtual" airline pilot that does all his airline flying on MS Flight Sim. I don't mind chatting to people who flight sim and want to know more about the real deal but I do get curt with the blowhards who think that what they do on a computer is the same as what I do for a living. Being a "Senior Pilot" with the virtual version of American Airlines is a bit rich.

Jn14:6 14th Aug 2012 09:18

Not to mention that nobody currently flies the A380 London-Hong Kong!

Smoketrails 14th Aug 2012 11:02

Popping in and out of Brum the last couple of years I have had the pleasure of running into one the local "nutters" on the spottingdeck at BHX! I have a faint feeling your mate has got friendly with one of them..

ilesmark 14th Aug 2012 13:26

Q - 'How can you tell when you meet a pilot at a party?'
A - 'He'll tell you'

crippen 14th Aug 2012 14:02

Thailand has a lot of these types too! French Foreign Legion,S.A.S.,Green Berets,ect.:=

Heathrow Harry 14th Aug 2012 14:32

this Jim guy - is he Nigerian??

wiggy 14th Aug 2012 14:43


Jim says that despite working for a local utility firm that in his 'spare' time he flies for large airliners regularly doing routes from London to Hong Kong.

I met one of these at a local health club in the UK a few years back .....he'd been B.S.ing the staff that though he had a fairly humdrum day job he was also a part time jumbo skipper for Air India and that whenever he travelled to the sub-continent he flew the aircraft. Even when he knew my line of work (747 P2 at the time), and even when he knew he'd been "rumbled" the B.S. didn't stop flowing; when questions were raised about things like simulator checks and recency he claimed he was exempt from the same due to his "special licence". Frankly he'd dug such a deep hole for himself over the years with the club staff that he had to keep digging to save face and as a result the story just got even more convoluted ...........we decided just let him get on with it and I actually felt sorry for him....

Oh, and there was the pub landlord I was introduced to who had a "flip" in a Phantom, alledgedly the station Commander had flown him from Leuchars to BHX to save him driving - bit of a shame that I knew the "staish"............

Tableview 14th Aug 2012 16:46

Sounds like the Walter Mitty I once worked with who claimed to have a PPL and offered to take me flying. The excuses got odder and odder and one day he mentioned that he'd flown from Cape Town to Plett (400 km) in his single engined non-pressurised aircraft. "When we got to 45,000 feet it got a bit turbulent ......." he said.

Nervous SLF 14th Aug 2012 20:07

My wife has just asked me is this "Jim" the same bloke who has built a simulator in his bedroom? Only she remembers seeing
a programe on TV the other day where people go around and judge other peoples houses. The winner gets 1000 Pounds.
Could it be this bloke ?

student88 14th Aug 2012 20:55

Total BS - steer well clear.


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