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towser 12th Jan 2012 20:48

Full of complete rubbish! As mentioned jet blue aircraft being described as a 737! C310 being followed by a coastguard 'C130 Hercules helicopter'. Concorde going around at Leeds ' powering up his 2 rolls Royce engines. The Thompson 757 at Manchester with each engine producing 800,000hp! All for entertainment!

Cymmon 12th Jan 2012 20:53

Yep, a large amount of schoolboy errors.

Landing a 757 on one engine and it can turn over..................:ugh:

I feel the Concorde landing was a little heavy, but then again the pilot was french.:\

Also if they had moved the beach a little further away from the end of the runway that little plane thingy wouldn't have delivered its pilot straight to his towel.....:ok:

JackRalston 12th Jan 2012 21:10

I couldn't stop facepalming when I watched it.....I noted 14 major errors.

crewmeal 13th Jan 2012 06:51

If you switched the sound off then it was a good programme:ugh:


On a happier note, have any of you been watching Earthflight on BBC1 - stunning?
Yes more scary landings there. What a brilliant programme. This is where the BBC excel.

Mike Tee 13th Jan 2012 07:37

Ater watching last week's Earthflight which I agree was technically good I just couldn't bring myself to sit through another hour of animals ripping out the entrails of others still alive. Just how this can be classed as family entainment beggers belief. Orrible, nature's Porn. Oh, and the Scary Landings programe was crap, we turned off halfway through the first landing (the one with the wonky wheel).

dfdasein 13th Jan 2012 09:45

Capie, how does one living in the shadow of Table Mountain watch BBC 1? On BBC World, or are they having you somewhere ex RSA?

Mike Tee, I agree about brute nature; and those bloody baboons in the shadow of Table Mountain!

Capetonian 14th Jan 2012 09:30


Capie, how does one living in the shadow of Table Mountain watch BBC 1? On BBC World, or are they having you somewhere ex RSA?
Next time you go to Cape Town, look very carefully at the mountain and you will see my private 350 (now uprated to 650) metre satellite dish. It feeds a NT54WD 600 Gb network of frozen superconductors cooled by cryogenic generators, which run to my house in Constantia. Every 500 metres there is a 60,000 kv relay powered by a private power station next to Koeberg - not a lot of people know about this. The signal reaches my house with very little drop in attenuation where it is amplified by a battery of 24 General Electric CX67/B boosters and fed to the box. The image on some channels tends to pixellate at times when there is a black South Easter, but mostly it works pretty well.

Edit : New picture shows upgraded antenna farm and rather unsightly cables running down into City Bowl from where they go underground.

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/...os340/TM-1.png

Otherwise, of course, the second part of your sentence is applicable!

dfdasein 14th Jan 2012 12:40

I love it!

BBC World or ex RSA?

JEM60 14th Jan 2012 15:33

My daughter never saw it when she was up the moumtain last week!!!

Stiletto 120 15th Jan 2012 17:29

its on again tonight (sunday 15th) on C5 at 9pm

for any of you who missed it or for you others who want a second bite of the cherry!

trident3A 15th Jan 2012 20:17

What a dog's dinner this is!

Cymmon 15th Jan 2012 22:05

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!:mad:

togsdragracing 16th Jan 2012 13:07

Caveat emptor
 
If the title of a TV programme starts with "World's..." it is highly likely to be sensationalist nonsense.

eastern wiseguy 16th Jan 2012 13:56

Telling the Thomson that there was an airfield "full of urgency" The phrase is Full Emergency ! Worst rubbish I have ever seen.....Are any of the Pilots Ppruners? Did they see it before it went out? Do Channel 5 give a ****?

scotbill 16th Jan 2012 16:37

Apart from the ludicrous commentary, it was worth watching for a perfect demonstration of why the "kick off drift" method of Xwind landing should never be used.

TurboTomato 17th Jan 2012 10:22

I was told by a 747 pilot that if you didn't do that you'd risk losing the outboard engine.

Mungo Man 17th Jan 2012 11:47


Apart from the ludicrous commentary, it was worth watching for a perfect demonstration of why the "kick off drift" method of Xwind landing should never be used.
Rubbish. Kicking off the drift works just fine if you time it right and use enough aileron.

scotbill 17th Jan 2012 12:46


I was told by a 747 pilot that if you didn't do that you'd risk losing the outboard engine.
So why does Mr Boeing design his autopilots to give such a polished demonstration of the professional way to land in a Xwind - viz by applying a modest amount of aileron and lifting the wing with opposite rudder - the controlled slip?

Rubbish. Kicking off the drift works just fine if you time it right and use enough aileron.
A perfect demonstration of how not to take part in a discussion!
Two very big ifs there - as many pilots (and their passengers) have found to their cost. Try sitting in the back row of an aeroplane 200 feet long when someone applies an agricultural boot of rudder at the last moment.
As the video demonstrated so clearly, if you mistime the rudder input and fail to control the consequent wing lift on the upwind side you are left with a severe shortage of ideas about what to do next - other than thump it in nosewheel first -- which will almost certainly damage the aeroplane.
With controlled slip you can set up early and continue with a normal flare. Relying on a last minute intervention is a skill learnt at the cost of heart-stopping moments along the way.
Learn from the autopilot if from no-one else!

TurboTomato 18th Jan 2012 09:33


So why does Mr Boeing design his autopilots to give such a polished demonstration of the professional way to land in a Xwind - viz by applying a modest amount of aileron and lifting the wing with opposite rudder - the controlled slip?
That I cannot answer, I was merely going by what he said. I'll dig out the quote and c&p it here as it was only a few days ago on another forum. He's a BA 744 driver as far as I know.

TurboTomato 18th Jan 2012 11:07


On a 747 the wing down method isn't used as much more than 5 degrees roll and one has lost the outboard motor.
Any comments?


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