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apeiron75 26th Apr 2011 21:59

LH 412 to Newark rerouted 16th April
 
Hi all

as a passenger of the Munich-Newark Lufthansa flight LH 412 on the 16th April, I would like to ask if anyone knows the real reason for having been rerouted to a small airport, waited there and then took off again.

Thanks!

BOAC 27th Apr 2011 07:03

1) I have no idea with that little information - a/c type. pax load, 'little airport' location? Perhaps we could get closer with those.

2) The crew knew (one hopes:)). Did they say nothing? Just land, sit around and then take off again? Did the doors open? Anyone get on or off? Was fuel taken on?

apeiron75 27th Apr 2011 07:46

Hi
thanks for your reply.
Aircraft was an Airbus A340-600, flight LH 412 from MUC to Newark.
Hovered over NYC for a long time, then diverted to Stewart Intl airport - with crew very secretive about everything and releasing very few info.
None on or off, took fuel on, took off and landed in newark.

scanhorse 27th Apr 2011 09:06

LH 412
 
LH 412 Flight Status
This flight has multiple segments. Please select a segment from the list.
LH 412 from (MUC) Munich to (EWR) Newark

LH 412 from (SWF) Newburgh to (EWR) Newark

Info from ; http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...ightNumber=412

(LH) Lufthansa 412
Departure Date: Sat 16-Apr-2011
Status: Landed
Delayed 257 minutes

See below for departure and arrival details including Flight Notes.

BOAC 27th Apr 2011 10:02

Unless we know what was going on at NYC to cause the holding on 16/4 we cannot progress. Sounds as if they just needed to top up due to extended holding. Surprised nothing said, though. Any LH around? Is SWF a nominated alternate for you?

Union Jack 27th Apr 2011 10:11

Hovered over NYC for a long time,

.... so surely this should be on Rotorheads.... if not Passengers & SLF?:ok:

Jack

scanhorse 27th Apr 2011 10:17

ATC archives
 
Hi

Trying to find LH 412 here in aproach arch. around 18,00 UTC

Airport Detail: EWR | LiveATC.net

Hotel Tango 27th Apr 2011 10:54

Well, I for one cannot believe that the FD did not give pax the reason for the diversion. Perhaps you were sleeping or listening to your IPOD or whatever and missed the PA. Sounds to me as if there was extensive holding and your flight had to divert to top up. It happens. Nothing sinister. But I refuse to believe that on a LH flight no announcement was made.

apeiron75 27th Apr 2011 12:07

Hovered over NYC for a long time,
.... so surely this should be on Rotorheads.... if not Passengers & SLF?:ok:


ehehehe :O

well, hotel tango, it's not that they didnt say anything, but the whole thing was quite secretive: i guess the reason was bad weather conditions, however they announced to have been diverted to JFK and when approaching the airport it was clear that it was not JFK but this little runway in the middle of nothing. So pax started to think about an emergency landing for other reasons and deck trying not to spread panic.

Hotel Tango 27th Apr 2011 12:25


but this little runway in the middle of nothing
I wouldn't call Stewart International's runway "little".

The main east-west runway is 11,818 feet (3,602 m) long by 150 feet (46 m) wide, but the landing threshold in each direction is displaced 2000 feet (610 m). Additionally, aircraft landing to the east on runway 9 are involved with landing distance available restriction of an additional 1,000-foot (305 m) reduction in length, making only 8,818 feet (2,688 m) usable for landing. Runway 27 has 9,818 feet (2,993 m) available for landing. The full length of the runway is available for takeoff in both directions.

So, worse case scenario 8,818 feet to land on (although it was most likely that you came in on 27 thus having 9,818 feet) and 11,818 feet for take-off on a short and light hop to EWR.

"Little" runway I think not.

Photos: - Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Maybe you were looking at the cross runway :)

apeiron75 27th Apr 2011 12:45

i meant it was clearly not JFK airport :rolleyes:

Hotel Tango 27th Apr 2011 13:40

apeiron75, looking back at all your posts I don't think i deserve the rolling eyes.

It could well be that the initial intention was to divert to JFK. This may have been changed due to the traffic situation at JFK and Stewart Intl offered instead. Do understand that in what was obviously a very busy time for the FD crew they may just not have had enough time to make a further PA announcement. The basics had already been made known i.e. you were diverting.

scanhorse 27th Apr 2011 17:13

Kaos JFK and EWR 16/4 , DLH flights
 
Lufthansa A380 bleibt mit "Unknown Status" am Boden

Sorry thats in German try Google translate

Best Regards

Aelkobi 20th Jun 2019 18:30

I see LH 412 MUC EWR has been diverted again, to SNN today . 20 jun 19 !!

malcolm380 20th Jun 2019 21:38

was this not due to the UA 757 hard landing incident at Newark? Several diversions to SWF, ALB and others.

DaveReidUK 20th Jun 2019 22:12


Originally Posted by malcolm380 (Post 10498992)
was this not due to the UA 757 hard landing incident at Newark? Several diversions to SWF, ALB and others.

Current EWR diversions are due to thunderstorms.


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