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Harbour Dweller 17th Mar 2010 04:32

Cathay Pacific approached to operate BA flights during BA Cabin Crew strike
 
Currently being discussed in Fragrant Harbour forum


Cathay to Operate BA flights
CX will wet lease 1 x 744 to BA commencing this weekend for 14 days.
The aircraft will operate as Speedbird 25 LHR-HKG-LHR.
BA wanted 2 jets but CX can only 'help out' with 1.

Airbubba 17th Mar 2010 04:36

Yep, I remember United sent crews to Oz to help out during the AFAP mass resignation in 1989 until someone called them on it.

Bus429 17th Mar 2010 07:50

Actually, Airbubba, quite a few UK operators sent aircraft and crews to Australia then.
(I still remember that long night in Karnia trying to fix that bleed leak indication that grounded you there about 10 years ago :ooh:).

Old Fella 17th Mar 2010 08:19

Wet Leases
 
At least BA have wet leased an aircraft rather than have their government call in the military, unlike the Great Yobbo Bob Hawke.

seat 0A 17th Mar 2010 10:16

Doesn`t Unite have any mutual assistance agreements with their fellow unions abroad?
If BALPA called for a legal strike, I`m sure that BA would have a hard time to find any wet- or drylease aircraft available anywhere :E

stator vane 17th Mar 2010 10:44

who else has agreed?
 
a news article said 40 airlines!

i wonder if mine is one of them?

stansted base with a slight touch of blue and white.

Tyrekicker2 17th Mar 2010 11:22

So what's the big deal? BA leases, charters whatever it can find with wings to keep the flights going during the strike. It is costing them a lot of money to do that and a lot of effort and inconvenience. But what it is doing is making sure that whenever the strike is finally resolved, there is a job to come back to. This idea of everyone else having to support the strike is 1960s thinking :ugh:. Let a few other companies benefit from extra revenue during these hard times at BA's cost.

Fubaar 17th Mar 2010 11:33

I wonder why BA feel the need to look as far afield as CX? If the Brit charter airline pilots repeat their valiant efforts with the same alacrity as they did in tearing off to Oz in 1989 without even attempting to hide their utter glee to be screwing the careers of fellow pilots, they'll be positively tripping over themselves to do the same to 'mere' cabin crew.

Or was 1989 a 'colonial' thing that they wouldn't consider doing to 'their own'? Myself, I think not. There have always been those among us who seem to relish eating their young.


This idea of everyone else having to support the strike is 1960s thinking.
...as was having a job in the aviation industry that was worth having. (Spoken like a true 'hero', Tyrekicker.)

B772 17th Mar 2010 13:19

Fubaar. I would have thought it was obvious to most that CX would be approached if an operation HKG-LHR-HKG was required.

sleeper 17th Mar 2010 13:20

Not just far afield.
Transavia and Arkefly have also been approached to fly for BA

sb_sfo 17th Mar 2010 13:24

Fubaar
 
Not to mention that it keeps the revenue in the oneWorld alliance?

CargoOne 17th Mar 2010 14:43

Fubaar


I wonder why BA feel the need to look as far afield as CX? If the Brit charter airline pilots repeat their valiant efforts with the same alacrity as they did in tearing off to Oz in 1989 without even attempting to hide their utter glee to be screwing the careers of fellow pilots, they'll be positively tripping over themselves to do the same to 'mere' cabin crew.
The problem is getting 3-class aircraft. Those are almost exclusively in major airline fleets (or stored, which makes it uneconimical to re-active for short period only). Charter and ACMI airlines only have 1-class charter configs, some have 2-class with a small number of old-style C-class seats. So it is quite understandable BA is looking to get some other majors to operate at least most lucrative routes.

Anyway one aircraft cannot cover daily LHR-HKG-LHR, so there will be some lottery for those who paid 5-10k quid for their C or F tickets.

MarkD 17th Mar 2010 14:44


At least BA have wet leased an aircraft rather than have their government call in the military, unlike the Great Yobbo Bob Hawke.
The British Government doesn't have military transport to call in - that's the main difference. The public might accept Green Goddesses for firefighting but they sure as hell won't get on a VC10 once MOL starts running ads about them!

er340790 17th Mar 2010 15:29


but they sure as hell won't get on a VC10
JUST TRY ME!!!

WindSheer 17th Mar 2010 15:54

You have got to side with BA on all this.

They are trying to bring their crew down a peg or two......:ok:

Panop 17th Mar 2010 16:22

A little off track, but for the record, the RAAF wasn't exactly flush with quality passenger transports either in 1989. Their contribution was a few C-130s which SLFs filled up with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Methinks a VC10 even in its dotage would be sheer luxury in comparison.

Dairyground 17th Mar 2010 16:39

Unite - the unUnion?
 
Seat 0A


Doesn`t Unite have any mutual assistance agreements with their fellow unions abroad?
If BALPA called for a legal strike, I`m sure that BA would have a hard time to find any wet- or drylease aircraft available anywhere
Anyone who cares to wade through 160 or so pages about the dispute on the cabin crew forum will find that the cabin crew represented by the BASSA element of Unite don't even have much support among Unite members working in other parts of the company.

UFGBOY 17th Mar 2010 16:57

Air Atlanta
 
Surprised they havn't been approached for extra capacity ?

silverstreak 17th Mar 2010 18:28

BA leasing-in from following to cover 1st round of proposed strikes

Jet2, Titan, Astraeus, Transavia, Viking, EuroAtlantic and Arkefly...

CargoOne 17th Mar 2010 21:24

MTOW


B772 and Cargo One, I think you'll find that Fubaar's tongue was firmly in his cheek and the point he was trying to make very much elsewhere than appropriate seating configurations when he asked why BA would look to Cathay for strike-"mitigating" aircraft and crew.
Well I sometimes can miss the things (not my native language), but I don't see anything wrong with CX to spare their aircraft & crew to BA. That's business, nothing personal.


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