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Nicholas49 14th Nov 2009 16:44

Looking at the live arrivals section of the Heathrow website, there are three (don't know which are code-shares) flights from Boston due 07.15 which are still 'delayed'. There are also a number of short-haul flights from Europe which landed late between 16.30 and 17.00.

Sorry for the naive question, but would these aircraft all have simply waited in the holds until they could make the approach?

HeathrowAirport 14th Nov 2009 17:11

fernanjet,

Yes but I dont know what the diversion is for, Heathrows website is saying nothing - and Its on the ground at FRA as far as I know.

sickBocks 14th Nov 2009 17:19

1) Diversion to Frankfurt isn't that surprising if the flight was from Berlin - not necessarily an LHR Wx issue.

2) Most shorthaul flights would have been held on the ground in Europe with a nightmare slot as opposed to going around in circles in the LHR area. This sort of fun and frolics reduces the flow rate to 38/60 so you know as soon as you arrive somewhere that it may be a while before you get back. Good job it's the weekend and less flights.

3) The 3 0715 BOS flights are all the Virgin flight but with codeshares.

ukdean 14th Nov 2009 18:31

I must admit when i posted this post i thought it would be a good day to watch some good flying.

When will the Met office stop "hyping" up weather "Severe Weather", "weather warning". This was a typical autumn storm nothing out of the blue. Nothing for crew to worry about.

So, when we get a major storm god for bid it will be the end of the world by the the Met Office....:ugh:

On a lighter note their where some well handled birds today and good reporting from ATC.........:D

No im not in aviation but the team work to get the birds on the ground was blinding:ok:

ConstantFlyer 14th Nov 2009 18:34

No strong winds up here in North East England. Cold but bright and sunny this morning; cloudy but mainly dry this afternoon. We'll be happy to accept any diverting aircraft from southern England.

Seat62K 14th Nov 2009 18:34

Who remembers the December day when one of the JT9Ds on a Pan Am 747 actually struck the runway at LHR on landing? Could have been 27 December, 1979.

Charley B 14th Nov 2009 18:47

We have had quite a few go arounds here at LGW today--VERY GUSTY!! I am sure the EK 15 at lunch time didn't divert(it was a777 not a 767)-it did go around, but pretty sure it went in on the second attempt!
The LGW tower have been really been under pressure today with the thunder and lightening and hail at 09.00ish this am, and the gales since then(it has become a lot calmer here in the last couple of hours!)

Sky Wave 14th Nov 2009 18:58


I am sure the EK 15 at lunch time didn't divert(it was a777 not a 767)-it did go around, but pretty sure it went in on the second attempt!
Hmm, I saw the a go around and a member of our crew told me it diverted after a second go around. I've no idea where he got that info from.

And yes, it could easily have been a triple.

Here's hoping for an easier day tomorrow.

SW

HeathrowAirport 14th Nov 2009 19:05

UAE15 EK0015 DXB-LGW A6-ECJ

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 14th Nov 2009 21:21

<<On a lighter note their where some well handled birds today and good reporting from ATC........>

Any chance of an English translation please? What does ATC "report"?

Thanks.

Lamyna Flo 15th Nov 2009 05:44


And yes, it could easily have been a triple.
It must have been. EK don't have 767s in their fleet AFAIK.

Vortex Issues 15th Nov 2009 07:37


When will the Met office stop "hyping" up weather "Severe Weather", "weather warning". This was a typical autumn storm nothing out of the blue. Nothing for crew to worry about.
You tell that to the two aircraft I was working into Gatwick who had a -35kt windshear causing them to go-around.

Lamyna Flo 15th Nov 2009 08:50


No im not in aviation
Yes, your previous ridiculous statement quoted by Vortex proves that. And your remark about ATC "reporting" (sic). Better to keep silent and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt ;)

Georgeablelovehowindia 15th Nov 2009 09:59

The aviation met gave a much more realistic forecast: Heathrow and Gatwick TEMPO 1416/1418 20028G45 and Luton 23030G50. It seems the media weather people live in fear of 'Doing a Michael Fish' as someone has already said!

The 0750 Culdrose actual of 21041G63 grabbed the attention.

forget 15th Nov 2009 10:23


Quote:
No im not in aviation

Yes, your previous ridiculous statement quoted by Vortex proves that. And your remark about ATC "reporting" (sic). Better to keep silent and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
Nasty, pointless post. This is 'Spectators and Spotters' where people don't have to be 'in aviation'? You are probably a good example.

Doors to Automatic 15th Nov 2009 11:34


Yes, your previous ridiculous statement quoted by Vortex proves that. And your remark about ATC "reporting" (sic). Better to keep silent and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
I imagine that the "reporting" remark is referring to the live wind reports that ATC provide to landing aircraft every few seconds during stormy conditions. Not too difficult to work out even if the terminology isn't quite right.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 15th Nov 2009 14:04

Doors to automatic. Thank you for that.

ukdean 15th Nov 2009 19:07

Whats the point in showing an interest when you get shouted down by what can only be descibed as a xxxx.

LAMYNA :mad:

Thanks to to the over guys who stood up,
The remark abour the reporting was with ATC giving Wind speeds/etc,etc

With this thread i am sorry but i thought i posted it spotters corner..
And forgive me but i dont seem to remember mentioning anything about a "vortex" then again what would i know.

I think i will take up Canal boat spotting and have a chat on thier forum. I bet Lam"YNA" is on their as well.

Malaysian28 15th Nov 2009 19:12

Did any find out what the Surface Wind Speed was on the 14/11/09,
I was Listening in, that morning and heard reports of Windshear on Finals for 27R/L.
Cant remember the attitude though.

Skyfan 15th Nov 2009 19:34

You should be able to get some sense of what was going on

here Weather History & Data Archive : Weather Underground


There were a number of rotating cells in the region (hence the Essex tornado reports) so gust-wise they could have come from just about anywhere creating some wildly unpredictable localised shear - outflow may even have driven them vertically, which can't have been remotely funny.


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