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Celtic Pilot 18th Sep 2008 11:27

I agree here with Gobonastick.....

Bad times when WALL STREET now looks at PPRuNe for stock exhange traits and advice...lol...

I can hardly see how someone askin a question on this forum will make an big enough airline go BUST...

no sponsor 18th Sep 2008 11:34

Ryanair opening a base in Edinburgh. O'Leary stated that he wishes to put Jet2 out of business....

Celtic Pilot 18th Sep 2008 11:40

where and when did He state this????

seems like a pretty focused statement to come out with at unpresidented times like the current climate!!!!

This must be a case of bad journalism... No self repecting business man would but his :mad:lls between the vice by coming out with a staement like that at economic times like these..

oh forgot o'leary isnt a self repecting business man.....

buzz boy 18th Sep 2008 11:46

O leary needs to be concentrating on his own back yard! Poor fuel hedging, poor yields and customer bad press that will be damaging no matter how much he mocks about "if i want loyalty i will buy a dog".

I somehow very much doubt o leary has made this statement.


What the hell is this rediculous thread still doing here?

baps 18th Sep 2008 11:52

30 million profit. Is that Jet2 or Dart group? The trucking business could be making a fortune while the airline loses money. Not saying that is happening but we don't actually know that how much money the airline is making do we?

Re-Heat 18th Sep 2008 11:54


It's almost certainly NOT a normal punter asking a question like that
Rubbish. Post XL, solvency of companies with whom people have spent money is the top of many travellers' minds.

The correct, and only response to the question should have been to (a) point out Dart's profits, and (b) the sizable and stable mail contract.

Further comment was neither required nor necessary.

I shall desist from further comment on this thread and suggest other with any level of maturity do the same.

cunningplanmylord 18th Sep 2008 15:36

Lets put this in context.

Jet2 have made money over the last summer but it really would be hard for them not too. They have a totally captive audience in Leeds with scarcely any competition at all.

They run some of the worst maintained a/c in the business but in doing so save money, ask some of the 757 crews about the condition of the a/c this summer.

They are without a shadow of a doubt one of the worst companies to work for, poorly remunerated with some of the industry's most unethical work pratices ( second only to ryanair) goverened from the top down by an unpleasant megalomaniac.s Talk at the moment is just to temporarily promote F/O to skippers for a few months over the summer then demote them back, what a bunch of c@?~s.

If ryanair wade into leeds they will be out on their ear or at least leeds scheduled ops will be. They have been fortunate with ad hoc charter work and a mail contract but thats it. Other outstations have already been shrinking and will current trading conditions crews will be held even more to ransom.

There are some good guys and girls in this outfit but a huge amount of deadwood and sheer incompetence. Same old equation peanuts = monkeys, I hope a good airline buys them out.

Smudger 18th Sep 2008 15:57

Well, Cunning, or whatever your name is, I have never seen such opinionated b******t on this website. As a Jet2 757 Captain I can assure you that all your assumptions are completely false. I, however, can only assume that you are yet another Jet2 wannabe that didn't make the grade with us. That is the impression you give by your vitriolic and totally unfounded post. Our fleet is very well maintained, and I take exception to your assumption that our aircraft are poorly maintained just because they are old. I take exception to your assumption that some of our personnel are incompetent. You clearly just hate to see a group of professionals doing well in a tough environment. Time will show that we are one of the strongest outfits around. Not many outsiders want to give us our due (although there are some and thank you). I hope that you will soon eat your words or just disappear from the site entirely. I, for one, will not miss you.

whatdoesthisbuttondo 18th Sep 2008 16:07

To respond to the OP, book with your credit card and at least if they are the next to go you can claim your money back.

Artie Fufkin 18th Sep 2008 16:07

Cunning.. I think you have exposed yourself by saying;


have been fortunate with ad hoc charter work and a mail contract
most impartial observers can only summise that if they are getting return work on ad-hoc charters then they must be doing them well. That's the way it works.

What is it that you have against Jet2? You're not a certain irritating little Irishman are you?

no sponsor 18th Sep 2008 16:35

I rather suspect that old cunning did work for Jet2 on the 757 - how you doing there fella?

Not all of what he says is boll0cks.

cunningplanmylord 18th Sep 2008 18:00

"I can assure you that all your assumptions are completely false"

"Our fleet is very well maintained"

Smudger, what a load of s'#te. I have absolutely no axe to grind with jet2 at all. I'm guessing this is the standard drivel u would expect to hear from a management pilot at jet2. It is laughable u would stand up and defend this shower.

No sponsor hope ur well

neilly 18th Sep 2008 18:43

Thanks for all your responses. Blimey I wasnt expecting such a vitriolic response Rainboe. In my 'profession', Psychiatry, such outbursts tend to indicate a rather fragile, insecure ego. Fortunately mine is intact and I found your ramblings rather amusing. To get so steamed up over an innocent question.... what a sad little man. There's always one in every forum.
To the rest of you, I was unaware that this forum was limited to 'Professional' pilots, it certainly wasnt stated anywhere when I registered. In fact I was pointed here by one of your fellow forumites. Sorry if you find my being here inappropriate, I dont think I'll rush back.
Living on the Isle of Skye any trip abroad is a big and expensive undertaking. I bought tickets last year to take the family to Tuscany. With the current financial climate and recent events I thought that perhaps it would be wise to ask the 'experts' i.e you lot, if you thought I would be better to look around for other ones so there wouldnt be a mad rush if things went t*ts up. Not knowing the intricacies of your forum I assumed that Rumours would be an appropriate place to post, particularly after seeing talk about XL in another topic.
Thank you for your helpful comments. Obviously nobody can tell the future but I feel reassured. As for the idea that I am some sort of saboteur starting rumours. That really is laughable.

Neilly

CAT1 REVERSION 18th Sep 2008 20:35

I'm glad at least some of us gave you some reassurance Neilly.

Please don't think we are all like Rainboe - most of us are not!

:ok:

drivez 19th Sep 2008 21:39

This is spotters corner
 
Not meaning to start a this is ours that is yours attitude but at the end of the day this is spotters corner. He didn't post it on Rumours and news or else all the abuse would be understandable. Don't just take the attitude oh what a twerp posting this stuff. Its not the proffesional pilots forum and he does at the end of the day pay you guys wages.

no sponsor 20th Sep 2008 08:21

Post was moved here from R&N on Thurs evening.

harrogate 20th Sep 2008 08:56

Another inept Jet2 thread I see.

There will always be nay sayers on PPRUNE for any airline.

Even if Meeson held a massive pre-advertised PR stunt on the active runway at Heathrow in the middle of the day, squatted on the tarmac and sh*t genuine £20 notes at the rate of £20m per hour for a whole day while screaming "there's plenty more where that came from", some boring moron will still come on here and ask why Jet2 haven't announced thrice daily flights to Kabul from Dishforth for winter '09, and suggest that it's because they're about to go balls up.

It's not Jet2 you need to worry about at the moment. Look elsewhere. There's nothing to see there. Maybe they'll come across trouble in the future, but for now there are far, far, far less stable airlines out there.

Want to find the strugglers? Clue: look for airlines that aren't called Jet2.

drivez 20th Sep 2008 19:36

Oh very sorry guys deserves all he gets then.


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