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BlueRobin 2nd Feb 2008 07:44

Edinburgh Tug Accident
 
Does anyone know what happened? Apparently a well-known Coventry-based freight airline was being tugged out with engines running last night/early this morning. After disconnecting, the aircraft rolled forward and allegedly one of the props struck the tug. Presumably the tuggie was still in there :eek: Police have impounded the aircraft. Was it an Electra or ATP?

Atcham Tower 2nd Feb 2008 08:29

Hmmmm. Tug drivers at Liverpool refused to pull prop aircraft, only push them. This became SOP. Now we know why...

Flap40 2nd Feb 2008 09:09

There were lots of blue lights surrounding an MNG F27 when we landed last night. It looked as though foam had been used and airfield ops were reporting debris in the grass near the taxiway. It is still parked there this morning.

AEUENG 2nd Feb 2008 09:17

Just seen the pictures of it. The stbd prop struck a GPU and the stbd engine has dropped from its mounts and is hanging down by about 30 degrees.

The tug driver should buy a lottery ticket tonight!

BEagle 2nd Feb 2008 09:48

From the Press Association:

Probe after cargo plane damaged

An investigation was launched after a cargo aircraft was involved in a collision at a Scottish airport on Friday night.
The Fokker 27 freight plane, operated by Neptune Airways, collided with a ground power unit at Edinburgh Airport at around 9.15pm.
No-one was injured but one person was treated for shock.

Miles_JAN 2nd Feb 2008 10:34

Reporter obviously had a scanner to hand..."neptune airways.."

Nightstop 2nd Feb 2008 11:06

A very unfortunate accident, I hope the tug crew are OK. I remember well the unfortunate accident at EDI stand 5A many years ago....a GPU (Servisair?) accidentally reversed into the running starboard prop of an Air UK F27 and the driver was decapitated.

marsipulami 2nd Feb 2008 13:08

So can you post some pics? As a former F27 driver, I'm curious to see them.

iws 2nd Feb 2008 17:41

.............. and, of course, the Edinburgh Evening News just had to have the headline:

"Investigation after cargo plane crashes"

:ugh:

eoincarey 2nd Feb 2008 19:36

Was at work last night when afore mentioned incident occurred (Servisair, EDI).
Told on the radio by the Cargo guys that the captain of the Fokker had been in a mad rush to get away that he had taxied forward before everything had been cleared (there was mention that he may not have left the brakes on) after being turned into wind, and proceeded to dig his nice F27 blades right into our GPU- lots of pretty fireworks apparently.
Fits with what my mate had said, who left the a/c 10 mins prior after dispatching it. Said the skipper had been getting rather pushy about departing on time (despite several late requests for additional weather).

Unfortunately this leaves us one GPU short for the upcoming Rugby charters for Scotland v France tommorrow! And no, there was no decapitating Tug drivers involved!

ETC

K.Whyjelly 2nd Feb 2008 19:40

Would this be the blue Fokker with the "TC" registration by any chance?

Miles_JAN 2nd Feb 2008 20:27

Sounds like it...that's 2 they've chowed through in the last year or so...

Have worked with some of the MNG guys, most of them are a good lot.

bnt 2nd Feb 2008 20:42

"one person was treated for shock"

If that one person was the tug driver, "shock" is the understatement of the year. In that position, I'd be a jibbering wreck, in need of fresh underwear. :eek:

groundhogbhx 2nd Feb 2008 21:37

Same a/c that had the engine failure going into CVT last week?

BlueRobin 3rd Feb 2008 08:58

Yes wasn't it last Feb when another of their F27s backed into a hangar overnight during some high winds? Tail damaged and subsequently broken up iirc.

There is a photo of the Edinburgh F-27 here

surely not 3rd Feb 2008 09:52

Where is Rainboe to pass comment on this accident?

He had plenty to say on the Astraeus incident at Gatwick which he blamed an inept tug driver for. So hopefully he will be on here soon to show that he is a reasonable man after all, and he'll berate the pilot for some very shoddy work with unemployment as a suggested result.

Doubt we'll see him though.

This nearly happened many years ago at Gatwick when a Genair Shorts 360 had just started both engines, the crew were head down in the cockpit and didn't see that a/c was starting to move forward towards the cab of the GPU because the brakes were off. Fortunately the engineer could see what was happening and managed to get the GPU under way and away from the advancing prop at some speed. The crew looked up, slammed on the brakes and a disaster was averted. Because everyone knew each other there was a collective deep intake of breath, apologies offered and accepted, the a/c departed and life returned to normal. I don't believe there was ever an incident report raised and both the flight deck have gone on to have very successful careers with major companies and the engineer has long since retired.

xetroV 3rd Feb 2008 10:14


Originally Posted by surely not
I don't believe there was ever an incident report raised

In other words: an opportunity was missed to learn something. Who knows, perhaps some F27 crew could have benefitted from that experience, had it been shared... :hmm:

surely not 3rd Feb 2008 10:44

Possibly xetroV, but then the crew in the incident I mentioned were not under time pressure and hassling the ground crew to act more quickly as has been reported in the incident yesterday, so perhaps it wouldn't have it taught them anything. Plus it was 22 ish years ago!! Now I know I'm getting old :{

akerosid 3rd Feb 2008 12:56

Seen here in JER in happier days:

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6067949&nseq=41

Ranger 1 3rd Feb 2008 14:50

I wonder who removed the chocks, as they should be the last thing to be removed prior to taxy after all equipment is clear followed by hand siganals.
Or was it a case of the aircraft jumping the chock/s?

I always used to put the GPU infront of the nose, never to one side of the aircraft, 2 reasons for this;
1. in case the aircraft jumped the chocks, it was between you & the aircraft.
2. The crew could see it especially,with the Obstruction light on the top, having said this we shall have to wait the outcome of the investigation.
Pleased to see that no one was hurt.
:ok:


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