What if no Dreamliner ever?
Airlines are all assuming that they are getting Boeing 787-s in 2008 and new models in 2010 and later. They call it a new revolutionary technology. They have orders for it.
There is no part of Boeing 787 in existence now. The plane is supposed to make a first flight in 2007. The making of the first frame is supposed to start in 2006. What would happen if no Boeing 787 ever flew? Once upon a time there was a new, revolutionary plane Boeing 2707. Airlines held, I think, 122 orders. And the assembly of the first flying frame had actually started - more than can be said of Boeing 787 now. No Boeing 2707 was ever rolled out. The first plane was not completed. What happened to airlines who had ordered Boeing 2707 but did not get them? What would happen if, sometime in 2006, something were discovered so that no Dreamliner is ever rolled out? What would become of the airlines? |
Airlines would buy other aircraft / use existing ones for longer --- what do you think? Aviation will suddenly stop? Silly question to be honest....
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I dont think its fair to cut him down like that, its a perfectly sensible question...
Indeed, airlines would carry on with existing aircraft and order new ones, but more importantly it would be a disaster for Boeing and heaven for airbus. Tho I think it is unlikely it will ever happen... but you never know... Technically there's also a chance that the A380 could never make a commerical flight.... :\ |
They'll all order the new EMB-333 widebody!
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davedek
What makes it a sensible question? Why didn't he answer his own question, after all he asked about the B2707, a bit more research would have given him the answer about what happened to the airlines that ordered it. Sorry (not really) to disagree, but dumb question. |
I had the same reaction as TopBunk. The politicians were funding the 2707 (meaning, of course, the US taxpayer...), and the politicians shut off the project. I doubt Boeing (as a company) suffered, although MANY employees did.
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Quite agree- very vacuous question. The 787 will be a great success when it is introduced, but if the whole program vanished off the face of the Earth, would any tears be shed? The vacuum would be filled. The market dictates what the airlines want, and the manufacturers supply what the airlines need. What more needs be said? Not only vacuous, but daft.
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sure aviation would continue without.
i will build an aircraft that will safe 25% fuel and will fly faster and further. i will do the trick by simply using *modern* materials and engines so, will anybody order some? i'm as far as boeing. |
The 787 will be a great success when it is introduced Cheerio:cool: |
England 2-1 Germany:ok:
WTDWL. |
What is 'success' then? If the aeroplane sells lots, and the program brings the manufacturer a profit, then that is 'success'! Boeing knows what it is doing- it can calculate the anticipated extra efficiency, not quite achieve it, run a program efficiency drive to improve it and get there, and sell lots to airlines that don't want ancient 767s and bigger 777s. How can it fail? It has original ideas. If the program gets cancelled, Airbus will ramp up production of the 350 kidding everyone they are getting something new and selling lots.
Mind you- the latest pictures of the 787 are losing that 'Batplane' look and becoming a tad more conventional, and there is talk the exciting new design ideas are backing off, but the weight saving from modern materials plus modern design efficiencies mean it will be a lot more fuel efficient, it will sell lots (as it is), and it will be a success. Hardly a stab in the dark, is it? And England won't win. Overpaid nightclub addicts/Ferrari/Porsche drivers with limited football ability. Some of them can't even take penalties for goodness sake! How can a World Cup team field players who flunk like that guy did on a World Cup penalty shootout, and kick other players whilst lying on the ground? Shoddy! |
Technically there's also a chance that the A380 could never make a commerical flight.... The 787 will be a great success when it is introduced, but if the whole program vanished off the face of the Earth, would any tears be shed? The vacuum would be filled. The market dictates what the airlines want, and the manufacturers supply what the airlines need. How can it fail? It has original ideas. |
There is no part of Boeing 787 in existence now http://www.netcomposites.com/images/...7nose_0805.jpg |
Nose
Is the nose in the picture supposed to be incorporated in a complete flying frame?
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There will be a 787 - Boeing has gone too far down the tracks. However, the carbon fibre fuselage does worry me, especially in the light of the Alaskan MD-80 (ground vehicle hits a/c, driver doesn't own up) since damage to CF is so much harder to detect.
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