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GrahamK 7th Mar 2005 11:23

Boeing CEO resigns
 
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...r_050307a.html

Konkordski 7th Mar 2005 11:47

That's not a resignation - that's a sacking.

catchup 7th Mar 2005 11:50

No woman
no cry.

Rainboe 7th Mar 2005 12:02

Wow that's frightening! Are all relationships between fellow staffmembers prohibited, or is it between staff with different ranks only? Is one allowed to conduct a relationship with equivalent seniority staff only or is it all totally banned. Considering a very large proportion of people meet their partners through work, it seems to be rather constraining on a happy private life.

Boeing is going through bad times.

PilotsPal 7th Mar 2005 12:32

Note that the article refers to information being circulated anonymously. No details are given concerning the lady's marital status but this simply reinforces the old adage about never having relationships at work. If the relationship becomes significant, then one will almost certainly have to leave to protect the other. Not always a easy choice to make but better by far than having to deal with a situation like this.

an-124 7th Mar 2005 13:21

At the end of the day, if a CEO is worth keeping, then he is not going to lose his job over having a fling.

I think it was just used as an excuse to get rid of him.

Wycombe 7th Mar 2005 13:26

The Press Release interested me for other reasons.

Stonecipher replaced Condit, who used to also sit on the Board of a large American IT Corporation (which recently lost it's CEO in a high profile manner, but for more mundane reasons)

The former head of that Corporation was Lew Platt, who is now Chairman of the board at Boeing.

Jobs for the boys, or what!!

GlueBall 7th Mar 2005 14:03

...And not to forget that Stonecipher is from the McDonnell-Douglas school; he was never a Boeing insider.

SaturnV 7th Mar 2005 14:12

for biographies of the boeing executive team, go to:

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...les/index.html

Airbubba 7th Mar 2005 14:20

From this morning's Wall Street Journal:

"...On a conference call Monday morning, Boeing again declined to name the woman executive, but said she is still employed by the company and that the affair had no bearing on her career."

Well, at least the woman didn't lose her job... It's always the man's fault in the politically correct workplace. It doesn't work both ways.

visibility3miles 7th Mar 2005 14:49


Well, at least the woman didn't lose her job... It's always the man's fault in the politically correct workplace. It doesn't work both ways.
Has it occured to you that in this case it was a senior executive (hard to get more senior than CEO) having a relationship with a lower-ranked employee? Plus the CEO should know what rules apply to the company.

Too bad they couldn't have just told them to quit rather than firing him.

WHBM 7th Mar 2005 14:57


The resignation was in no way related to the company’s operational performance or financial condition, both of which remain strong.
Actually I think it was completely related to that. He wouldn't have gone if he had been a great team member. But he wasn't. Ever since he got the top job Boeing has been rudderless, and this must have just been the last straw for the rest of the board. Interesting that the board had to actually demand his resignation, normally such things are done in a more civilised way. But blustering Harry was never civilised in anything.

He ruined McDD and was set to ruin Boeing too. Hopefully someone competent will replace him. Shame that Phil Condit can't be invited back !

Flight Safety 7th Mar 2005 14:57

In a number of large US corporations, it's against company policy to engage in a romantic relationship with someone who reports directly to you, or is lower in rank than you. This policy is nearly always applied company wide, at all levels of management.

This policy is designed (amoung other things) to prevent opportunities for corruption within the company. The primary issue that Stonecipher may have caused, is that the policy can become unenforcable if a high ranking executive is allowed to break the policy, while asking others to follow it. It's the possibility of corruption that caused Boeing to emphasize in the press release that the female executive's employment position was not effected by the relationship.

Sarbanes-Oxley is also a factor here, and this is why Boeing has emphasized that the financial and operational condition of Boeing was not effected by the relationship.

The bottom line, this CEO did a very stupid thing. There was no way Boeing could afford to look the other way, not after the ethical problems they've had recently.

(edited to add Sarbanes-Oxley comment)

1DC 7th Mar 2005 15:35

A long long time ago (in an American Company), a highly rated employee was caught having an exotic moment with the Presidents secretary on a table in the office store room. The happy couple were caught by the office supervisor ( a lady). She didn't like it at all and wanted the pair fired, after high level discussions the President told the supervisor that something had to go and ordered her to get rid of the table!!

rotornut 7th Mar 2005 16:19

If my plane's a rockin'
Don't come a knockin'!

747FOCAL 7th Mar 2005 16:53

Hey Wingnut:

Thats "If my plane is a knocking, don't bother knocking..... come on in"


To be honest, He had it coming. There were a lot in the front office gunning for him. I would feel much more confident about the launch of the 787 and the 747 Advanced now that Harry is not targetting BCAG for elimination in Lieu high dollar military contracts.

Re-Heat 7th Mar 2005 17:06

What on earth does SOX have to do with this?!

Quite frankly, he is suposed to be whiter that white in such a position - there is no information as to the nature of the relationship or whether it involved any abuse of power etc, so no comment can really be made on it being a PC move or not.

I rather tend to agree that someone is using it as an excuse to remove him however...

Flight Safety 7th Mar 2005 17:41

Re-heat, SOX involvement could depend on the position (i.e. financial, etc) of the female executive. SOX can also play a role in creating personal relationship policies.

BoeingMEL 7th Mar 2005 20:27

Horny Politicians Please Note...
 
He broke the (strict) rules - rather foolishly - and paid for it. Horny legover politicians who hang on by their fingernails please note! Looks like a shockingly expensive tryst..... surely Harry would have made millions more in the next few years? Shame. bm

rotornut 7th Mar 2005 20:51

Looks like he got caught with his...um, gear down.:oh:


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