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TheShadow 23rd Sep 2004 17:09

AA 777 Engine Fire Photo
 
Can anyone identify the date and circumstances of this photo?

Possibility exists that it's a fake but I have examined it at pixel level and it wouldn't appear to be - or if it is, it's a mighty good fake.

Checked http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/
and cannot see it there.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/theape2/2...EngineFire.jpg

mondriver 23rd Sep 2004 17:18


"...I have examined it at pixel level and it wouldn't appear to be..."
Blimey mate...you've been watching too much star trek......

However, I've checked it over with my tri-corder, and it does seem to show some irregular sub-atomic anomolies...Captain.....!

:p

Airbubba 23rd Sep 2004 17:23

Maybe you should take a look at the original photo taken at ZRH:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/192056/L/

simfly 23rd Sep 2004 17:26

shadow,

Where did u find it???

Spuds McKenzie 23rd Sep 2004 17:31

Case closed I'd say... :hmm:

No comment 23rd Sep 2004 17:36

What a stupid plane to choose to do that kind of fake on... the fact that theres no reflection anywhere on the polished surfaces kind of gives the game away (and exposes the faker as a bit slow...)

Capt. Inop 23rd Sep 2004 17:53

Lots of photoshopping like that here:

http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8708


http://www.airdisaster.com/user-uplo...s_A3805eng.jpg

SaturnV 23rd Sep 2004 18:08

even if this was somehow an engine fire in a smoke-free environment, there is no trailing heat shimmer characteristic of plasma flow in earth atmosphere. this is always seen aft of the reaction chamber nozzle given the 31,000 kilopascal combustion pressure.

TheShadow 23rd Sep 2004 18:57

Simfly

Sent to me by a journo who'd had it sent to him by a learned academic who wanted to use it after it was sent to him by an Air Canada Captain.

I was asked to establish its authenticity and history. But I'm a cynic and I'd seen it initially as a fake. However thanks to all who helped establish and confirm its bad bona fides.

Case closed. Academic and journo saved from possible embarrassment.

catchup 23rd Sep 2004 19:31

Engine one is working pretty good, did engine two fail?

;)

Buster Hyman 23rd Sep 2004 22:32

Did you bother to look at the engine reflection on the fuselage? Seems pretty clear to me.:rolleyes:

BN2A 24th Sep 2004 09:58

And there's no rudder deflection for the presumably assymetric thrust scenario!!

:8

Snigs 24th Sep 2004 10:51

The engine in question is a GE90 on the test-bed undergoing either a fan blade off test, or a birdstrike test (I can't remember which, but I think it's the former). You'll also note that the intake is painted black, entirely different to the other engine.

I have the original test bed picture, but I don't have a web site so I can't post it as an image!

Navy_Adversary 25th Sep 2004 08:13

airbubba
Well spotted Sir!!! soon put an end to the speculation.
IMHO this sort of post should be sent to Jet Blast or Spotters corner, or better still the poster yellow carded.:ok:

ratarsedagain 25th Sep 2004 09:34

BN2A,
Just 'cause an engine is on fire, doesn't necessarily mean it has stopped producing thrust (at least not until the fire engine checklist is actioned), so therefore you wouldn't need rudder.

PorcoRosso 25th Sep 2004 12:45

Just reading the link gives a clue :


http ...blablabla... /modifiedairlinersphoto.net

A fake

Ontariotech 25th Sep 2004 17:22

Does this mean the fire Service need not attend?

LME (GOD) 27th Sep 2004 07:47

The AA photo is legit. The shot is from the high-res video at Boston. The engine suffered a surge/stall at take off which result in the engine being pulled.

An2 27th Sep 2004 07:57

Ontariotech,
There's no fooling you, I take it!? ;)

This "photo" has been cut to pieces over at the Aviation Photography forum at Airliners.net.
Didn't take two seconds........ :}

The link; http://www.airliners.net/discussions...d.main/149498/


LME (GOD),

If you take a close look at the forward part of the fuselage, just below the red stripe, the reflection of the left engine(bottom part) is clearly visible. Now, if the engine can be seen as a reflection, then the flames should be seen as well.
Don't you think......... :E

john129401 3rd Dec 2005 09:14

B777 engine fire - Info please
 
Does Anybody know which airport this engine fire took place?
rough dates and details would also be helpful. other similar pictures would be welcome for use in Airport Fire Service training.

Many thanks

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ngineFire1.jpg

vought 3rd Dec 2005 09:16

I think it's pretty obvious this is a fake.
 
Sorry fella; this didn't actually happen!

paddy_22002 3rd Dec 2005 09:25

Abode Airport....Never Never land!

BOAC 3rd Dec 2005 09:37

John - what they are saying is that it is a 'photo-trick'. I believe the 'picture' was discussed and disected on 'Spectators' Balcony' - possibly up to a year ago. You may be able to 'search' for it there if you need to.

Mark McG 3rd Dec 2005 09:38

The original un-edited photo was taken at Zurich.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/192056/L/

SMOC 3rd Dec 2005 09:42

Also you can see the reflection of the engine on the fuselage with no fire!

Dani 3rd Dec 2005 10:42

actually, there is a real case of engine fire which happened, also in ZRH, about at the same spot on RWY 16. It was one of the first MD-11, operated by Swissair. I saw the picture, but don't know if it is somewhere on the net. The fire looks pretty similar, although not as predominant as here. Flames are going mainly backwards, not forward, as pictured here.

Phil Hudson 3rd Dec 2005 14:50

That picture is just as real as this one

Have a look here: http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/sh...ight=photoshop

:ok:

Link to commercial website removed... Sick Squid, Forum Moderator

barit1 3rd Dec 2005 15:35


Also you can see the reflection of the engine on the fuselage with no fire!
That's because the light has farther to travel to create the reflected... Oh never mind.

:}

(In reality, the fireworks were photographed during some ground-bound certification test at the engine manufacturer's -
blade failure, bird ingestion, spotter disposal, etc.)

BOAC 3rd Dec 2005 16:53

Threads merged

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 3rd Dec 2005 19:54

I saw an Aer Lingus B737 at Heathrow many moons ago blow an engine and it left the biggest smoke trail you have ever seen which hung there for about 5 minutes

G-I-B

mini 3rd Dec 2005 22:10


, spotter disposal, etc.)
LMAO :}

(no offence chaps...)


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