Pilot has to pay O'Leary £5,000!
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Pilot has to pay O'Leary £5,000!
Talk about insult to injury - former Ryanair Captain John Charlton who took on Ryanair in an unfair dismissals case not only lost his case but has to pay their costs of £5,000
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What's the problem? If RyanAir had lost they would have been ordered to pay Capt. Charlton's costs. That's the way the justice system works. The tribunal obviously found that he had not been unfairly dismissed so why would RYR have to pay a legal bill when they were not found to be at fault?
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"former Ryanair Captain John Charlton who took on Ryanair in an unfair dismissals case not only lost his case but has to pay their costs of £5,000"
Forgive my lack of legal knowledge, but isn't this the way it tends to work if you lose your case??
Forgive my lack of legal knowledge, but isn't this the way it tends to work if you lose your case??
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Does legal aid exist in Eire? If not, then it would seem the only people that can afford justice are the rich or the very poor. The middle classes in the UK fear the "justice" system as they know they cannot afford to lose. Many a "Maxwell" use this to their advantage.
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....... and five thousand Punts is only about ninepence-ha'penny, anyway!
Yes, before any wise-ass asks, I did know they'd gone over to Euros but that wouldn't have had the same comic impact, would it?
Yes, before any wise-ass asks, I did know they'd gone over to Euros but that wouldn't have had the same comic impact, would it?
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If the dispute was before an English Employment Tribunal (which it seems it wasn't) then in only the most exceptional circumstances e.g. vexatious litigant would the loser have to pay the winner's costs. The normal position is each party bears its own costs in (English) Employment Tribunals.
Employment Tribunals have different rules on costs awards as compared to the Courts where costs are entirely at the Court's discretion (although in the Court's, it is common for the winner to have his costs paid by the loser).
Most likely the Captain's employment contract was subject to Irish law - a whole different set of rules apply (and I am not familiar with them so I will say no more and defer to someone who is better acquianted).
I think the moral of the story is ask your lawyer up front for a worst case scenario and be ready to deal with that eventuality.
Employment Tribunals have different rules on costs awards as compared to the Courts where costs are entirely at the Court's discretion (although in the Court's, it is common for the winner to have his costs paid by the loser).
Most likely the Captain's employment contract was subject to Irish law - a whole different set of rules apply (and I am not familiar with them so I will say no more and defer to someone who is better acquianted).
I think the moral of the story is ask your lawyer up front for a worst case scenario and be ready to deal with that eventuality.
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My 'Environmental Studies' university lecturer (ain't a man to mess with) whose an expert in planning law & who has no qualms about sueing people/state bodies right left & centre if they break the planning laws (including Shannon airport for building a new terminal without the requisite sewage system in place (no dumping it into the estuary untreated is not acceptable) says "The only people who can afford to take legal action in Ireland are the very poor & the very rich" because the odds are so stacked against them. If you're middle of the road with middle of the roads assets ya'll probably end up sleeping in a council house or under the stars & cycling an oul rothar. There's democracy in practice for you, more like a bl**dy dictatorship if you ask me.
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Wynned,
Check again - Free Legal Aid has been available in Ireland (to those in need of it) for the last 20 years at least. Just to save you diving for the piggy bank should you find yourself in front of the wigs. Buy me a pint sometime in return for this Free Legal Aid information. Good luck.
Check again - Free Legal Aid has been available in Ireland (to those in need of it) for the last 20 years at least. Just to save you diving for the piggy bank should you find yourself in front of the wigs. Buy me a pint sometime in return for this Free Legal Aid information. Good luck.