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Landing a small plane at LHR/LGW

Old 6th Apr 2020, 10:23
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Landing a small plane at LHR/LGW

If I had the good fortune to be a pilot with my own small plane, what obstacles would there be to flying to LHR or LGW while the runways are underused?

A380-sized landing fees? Inadequate equipment on plane?
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 10:36
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How about recreational flying not being allowed at the moment?
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 10:52
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If there is a loophole and it can be done, this should be exploited with no stone left unturned. For a small craft pilot, the experience of a lifetime!

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para (g) is a starting point?

Timing might me tight, but I did not research the consequence of this. https://www.aurora.nats.co.uk/htmlAI...018-en-GB.html
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 11:17
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Originally Posted by c52 View Post
If I had the good fortune to be a pilot with my own small plane, what obstacles would there be to flying to LHR or LGW while the runways are underused?

A380-sized landing fees? Inadequate equipment on plane?
As long as you get PPR probably nothing, having said that currently there is a notam out for Heathrow saying they don't accept practice approaches. So one has been trying it..
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 11:28
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People are doing it here at Sydney and Melbourne in Pipers and Cessnas. Eye watering landing fees but a once in a lifetime op!
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 11:38
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How about recreational flying not being allowed at the moment?
Good point, well made.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 11:46
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Whatever you do, from personal experience, to avoid giving yourself a heart attack, ask how much it would cost to land there.
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If there is a loophole and it can be done, this should be exploited with no stone left unturned. For a small craft pilot, the experience of a lifetime!
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What on earth do you mean by loophole?????

People are dying because of some selfish individuals disobeying the law - the parks in London were crowded last weekend. And you are promoting finding some way to break the law or get round it and risk killing someone

Come to my hospital and I will show you the consequences

Recreational flying must stop
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 12:10
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How about keeping current might save pilot's lifes?
Close to the place I live general aviation pilot's created a standby voluntary pilots hotline to have aircraft on call if any authority, hospital and such might need some urgent (free to them) medical flight to transport stuff back and forth. (Transporting patients is formally excluded.)
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 12:11
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List of charges.

https://www.heathrow.com/content/dam...f_Use_2020.pdf

At a glance it would seem to be a minimum noise charge of 2,726.70 (aircraft under 16 tons), plus 25.47 parking fees for every 15mins, or part thereof, after the first 30mins which are free. Plus VAT.

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before recreational GA was categorised as a non-essential activity, I did ask but was politely turned away.

A few people managed low go-arounds during the ash cloud 10 years ago but circumstances were very different.

On a normal day (if you could get a slot) expect a few grand in landing and compulsory handling charges.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 12:28
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Originally Posted by Radgirl View Post
What on earth do you mean by loophole?????

People are dying because of some selfish individuals disobeying the law - the parks in London were crowded last weekend. And you are promoting finding some way to break the law or get round it and risk killing someone

Come to my hospital and I will show you the consequences

Recreational flying must stop
Cool down, lost in translation. Meant to say, if by coincidence there is a legal way under today's circumstances, do it. Comparing light aircraft activity to full parks shows perhaps up to 3 orders of magnitude difference, that's not a fair call.

I understand your frustration and would feel the same in your shoes, under the impression someone was trying to get around the protocols in place.

The full opposite is true for myself. Not only we are protecting the healthy, but also the sick by keeping the rise in figures on short(er) leash and thus giving the medics a chance to cope, preserving at least some health sector capacity to people with serious non-COVID conditions, possibly even more lethal. Most of the things that are still allowed in the UK are banned under State Emergency Law here back home!
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What part of STAY AT HOME don't you understand?
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 12:44
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Wasn't the op's question hypothetical?
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How about keeping current might save pilot's lifes?
Close to the place I live general aviation pilot's created a standby voluntary pilots hotline to have aircraft on call if any authority, hospital and such might need some urgent (free to them) medical flight to transport stuff back and forth. (Transporting patients is formally excluded.)
Would have thought that all the AOC employed commercial aircraft sat on the ground would be desperate for this kind of work
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 13:28
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It was a purely hypothetical question as I am not a pilot and do not own a plane, but it might become less hypothetical if there are a few days between all restrictions being lifted and airports becoming busy again.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 13:30
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I'm not a pilot, don't have a plane, don't have 2-3000 to throw at HAL (+VAT) and would not particularly enjoy the approach and departure as a passenger.

It might not be a hypothetical question if, once all restrictions are lifted, the airports remain mostly unused for a while.
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My flight school required a flight into KDFW during the commercial syllabus, and that was in normal times. Atc hated us, but they were required let us in.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 14:17
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Apologies if I mis-read the OP.
Must be getting to me, Week 3 out of 12 for me, and watching those idiots on TV who think sunbathing qualifies as exercise, or having a beach barbecue is social distancing...........................
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Landed one time at Washington National Airport in a Piper Archer. Slot required because it was after the controllers strike.
No landing fee, no parking fee either. Only in America.
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