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Old 27th May 2019, 05:52
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Antonov AN 24 Kazakhstan

Hi, I would like your opinion on the safety of this aircraft. A group of us are working in a small city in Kazakhstan. Usually we travel by Air Astana are happy with this airline but the airport is partially closed for 6 months as they are redoing the runway. Air Astana will not be flying but instead SCAT Airlines which have a bad reputation are flying to Astana 4 times a day with Antonov AN 24 planes. All my colleagues are planning to take a 13 hour train ride rather than fly on this plane.

I would like to know if you would travel on this plane?

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Yes I would fly. I've been on many Antonov 24's. The pilots want to go home so only fly if they think it's safe.
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At least its not a 737 max, now would you fly on that.

Another passengers experience.

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1373287

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Old 27th May 2019, 08:41
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I have flown on plenty of AN24's with no incidents to report but airliners are supposed to be able tpo perform safely even in the event of an engine being shut down, how true it is or not but what I did here is that the AN24 doesn't perform so well with an engine shut down.

Now if the airline, rather than the qaircraft, have a bad reputation then that is a whole different ball park.
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From what I can ascertain, their last fatal accident was in 2013. It was wearher related (fog) and involved one of their western built aircraft, the Canadair CRJ-200. They have had other (minor) incidents since but then so have most of the so-called safer major western European carriers!
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Originally Posted by Cymmon
The pilots want to go home so only fly if they think it's safe.
As our mathematical colleagues would say, that's a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for a safe flight.

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Old 27th May 2019, 12:27
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SCAT are a Kazakh airline that are not allowed to fly into the EU but do fly to Turkey. Their prices are low and have poor customer service. They fly Antonio’s and some years ago, one of their planes crashed just outside Almaty airport.

so Antonio’s are fairly safe but it depends on the airline?
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Actually UKK, the aircraft that crashed was a western type as mentioned above. These days they fly mainly Boeing 737, Boeing 757 and Canadair CRJ Regional Jets. I can't find any evidence that they still operate Antonov 24s, unless they lease them from another airline.
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Anyone know the safety level for that 13 hour train journey?
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Old 28th May 2019, 02:56
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The trains are slow and I have never heard of any accidents.
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Old 28th May 2019, 02:58
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My selection

22 Jun, Sa06:50
Kostanay
DV-7271 h 30 min
22 Jun, Sa08:20
Nur-SultanNursultan Nazarbayev
Flight performs Airline SCAT ANTONOV AN-24
1 adult
22 575 ₸
Fare19 000 ₸Taxes3 575 ₸
Total22 575 ₸
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Old 28th May 2019, 03:40
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Not like this though ?




Note the FO checking the nose wheel



PS I have driven from Kostanay back down to Astana - if it's safety that you're after then catch the train
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
I can't find any evidence that they still operate Antonov 24s, unless they lease them from another airline.
There are a few recent-ish photos of their An-24Bs and An-24RVs on the net, at least up to a couple of years ago.
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There are a few recent-ish photos of their An-24Bs and An-24RVs on the net, at least up to a couple of years ago.
Indeed, yet I can't find them in any of the fleet lists! Perhaps a subsidiary?
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
Indeed, yet I can't find them in any of the fleet lists! Perhaps a subsidiary?
We're not allowed to post commercial links but if one googles for 'SCAT Airlines AN24' then top of the results is an AN24 page on SCAT's website yet in their aircraft types drop down menu there is no mention of AN24
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Old 28th May 2019, 10:22
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If you read my insert it tells you: Southern Skies Airline operates for SCAT's. Airlines
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Well, there you go, that's that sorted
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Southern Sky Airlines is the regional subsidiary of SCAT Airlines (SCAT Air Company). The carrier is based at Taraz Airport and operates services throughout Kazakhstan utilising Antonov and Yak equipment.

Courtesy of CAPA
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But is it safe?
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Old 29th May 2019, 07:45
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
If you read my insert it tells you: Southern Skies Airline operates for SCAT's Airlines
And confusingly, some of the AN-24Bs (those with the blue/white stripped rudder) carry "Oнтустик Аспаны" titles, which Google translates as "Oyster Ascension". Go figure.
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