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Old 9th Feb 2019, 13:50
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Commercial pilots exist in another financial reality to most of the rest of us. Try not to think of them in normal human terms, in my experience they generally don't reciprocate. They merely tolerate us and our limited abilities.
So nice to see a well balanced individual, a canyon sized chip on each shoulder!
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 13:57
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Originally Posted by slingsby View Post
windshear in the flare, nose down to maintain speed, TOGA, maintain positive climb rate, wait until clear of shear, recover.
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 18:23
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Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
Because he earns > £110k per annum and can well afford his own beer.

Commercial pilots exist in another financial reality to most of the rest of us.
I am guessing that is because you don't have the responsibility of flying 200-300 people a quarter of the way around the world before delivering them back to earth safely in a 60mph gale whilst being leaned on to leave as much fuel on the ground as you dare.
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Well if that's what they actually did then it's not a good capture at all.
I was vaguely puzzled by the “good capture” as well. The elevator moves aircraft nose down, followed by aircraft nose (rapidly) up. Then the timely go around. Perhaps they did leave the gear and flaps alone for wind shear.

Or perhaps they were just having a ‘little moment’ - when all of the normal words don’t come out of your mouth as coolly as they normally might. Because you’ve just had the bejesus scared out of you. As you know - it happens.

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Old 10th Feb 2019, 08:45
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Slingsby, I’m fairly sure the 787 technique is not control speed with pitch. It’s not a GA aeroplane.

Pitch for glidepath and thrust controls speed.

But 787 rated pilots won’t be coming on here to check the actions for a windshear go-around
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 10:12
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Originally Posted by JPJP View Post
I was vaguely puzzled by the “good capture” as well.
The author of that remark has said it's a reference to the video capture.

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good capture of the video numpty
It does indeed seem to have captured the event well. Not much scope for puzzlement there.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 10:17
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Why are such things always described as 'insane'?
It's our cousins from over the other side of the pond with their lack of vocabulary.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 10:32
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Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
Because he earns > £110k per annum and can well afford his own beer.

Commercial pilots exist in another financial reality to most of the rest of us. Try not to think of them in normal human terms, in my experience they generally don't reciprocate. They merely tolerate us and our limited abilities.
Your comments are offensive. Many pilots are £100k in debt after self-sponsoring at the start of their careers.
Further, it is probably the most ‘checked’ profession on earth (simulators, line-checks, route-checks, medicals, CRCs, etc etc).
Combine that with fatigue from worsening EASA FTLs, and they are worth their £110k, or whatever.

And don’t forget, half of that goes to HMRC.


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Old 10th Feb 2019, 12:12
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Originally Posted by RedhillPhil View Post
It's our cousins from over the other side of the pond with their lack of vocabulary.
Sadly, I don't think "Big Jet TV" can use that excuse.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 12:43
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
The author of that remark has said it's a reference to the video capture.



It does indeed seem to have captured the event well. Not much scope for puzzlement there.
Not now he's explained his terrible syntax for you.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 17:07
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Not now he's explained his terrible syntax for you.
As you are very strict on correct use of language, can you explain what this means?

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Too assume that one would have to take the comment completely out of context.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 17:22
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It was me can you send me the money instead? My name is Nigel
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 18:39
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Not now he's explained his terrible syntax for you.
Speak for yourself, I didn't need it explained.

Perhaps for those who did, he might be persuaded to rewrite it in words of one syllable, if asked nicely.
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 18:49
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Course you didn't
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 02:45
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Originally Posted by richardthethird View Post
No need to be bitter about it. If you’d worked hard at school, too, you also could be a pilot.
I worked harder, I became an engineer
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 11:51
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I noticed a fair bit of discussion re "flaps up or not?" and it reminded me of a day spent taking pictures of the nice aeroplanes arriving at Heathrow. This was in April last year (5th April in fact). An approaching United 767 aborted his approach a mile or so to the east and went around. It was intriguing to watch as it did the whole grand tour around circuit with his flaps and gear down. Because of the nice gentle speed and relatively low altitude, it was possible to watch its progress around half the circuit and the wheels were never retracted.
This contrasted with the many go arounds I have seen at Heathrow when the wheels are usually retracted while the aircraft is still climbing out on the runway heading.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 12:22
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Originally Posted by wondrousbitofrough View Post
I worked harder, I became an engineer
As a former colleague of mine (ex-RAF nav) used to say: anyone who has half a mind to be a pilot, has all the right qualifications.

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Old 16th Feb 2019, 21:53
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Buy him a pint!
Why should I? He didn't land it!

I worked harder, I became an engineer
Depends upon what you mean by 'engineer'. It's a greatly misused word in the UK. No idea how it's used in Oz (although I can hazard a guess).
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