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Three of our heroes Twitter accounts have been restricted for some reason
. He's got more up and running already though I would bet. @jetairways2020 and @jetairwaysconsm both have the whiff of advanced Jasonic idiocy about them....TA
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I couldn't help myself but to have a bit of a dig.
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Delusion continues...
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jason-unsworth-3bb51a67_9w-activity-6630859858247761920-tk68
Sad that some people still believe in his tales!
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jason-unsworth-3bb51a67_9w-activity-6630859858247761920-tk68
Sad that some people still believe in his tales!
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The information you have provided however is by far the last knockings of this saga. Absolutely no chance (not that there was any in any case) of gaining financing in any way, shape or form with a CCJ against the business, simply not happening, nada, never.
It will be interesting to determine whether Unsworth showed up to the issuing court, or whether Mrs G Unsworth, who is still listed a director, is aware that she is party to a CCJ???
The other point you make is quite key too... a registered company, that is dormant and doing no business - how on earth has it ended up in a position to be CCJ'd for the princely sum (in real terms) of £500??? It will have cost the creditor more to get the CCJ than it would to just write it off, so someone somewhere is very very miffed with our entrepreneur!
Last I checked you could use HMG's MoneyClaim Online for about £35 to bring a case before the Small Claims Court, and you add this fee onto your claim, plus interest and expenses. I've used it a few times myself, no solicitors involved 👍
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I am already blocked on all platforms now, so sadly I can't see, nor add to your comment.
The information you have provided however is by far the last knockings of this saga. Absolutely no chance (not that there was any in any case) of gaining financing in any way, shape or form with a CCJ against the business, simply not happening, nada, never.
It will be interesting to determine whether Unsworth showed up to the issuing court, or whether Mrs G Unsworth, who is still listed a director, is aware that she is party to a CCJ???
The other point you make is quite key too... a registered company, that is dormant and doing no business - how on earth has it ended up in a position to be CCJ'd for the princely sum (in real terms) of £500??? It will have cost the creditor more to get the CCJ than it would to just write it off, so someone somewhere is very very miffed with our entrepreneur!
The information you have provided however is by far the last knockings of this saga. Absolutely no chance (not that there was any in any case) of gaining financing in any way, shape or form with a CCJ against the business, simply not happening, nada, never.
It will be interesting to determine whether Unsworth showed up to the issuing court, or whether Mrs G Unsworth, who is still listed a director, is aware that she is party to a CCJ???
The other point you make is quite key too... a registered company, that is dormant and doing no business - how on earth has it ended up in a position to be CCJ'd for the princely sum (in real terms) of £500??? It will have cost the creditor more to get the CCJ than it would to just write it off, so someone somewhere is very very miffed with our entrepreneur!
The courts can be farcicle, the debt collector goes to court, feeds them full of bull, and a CCJ gets issued, from what I've read in the past this JU has been using a variety of addresses, it could be as simple that, like me, a debt collector has been writing to the wrong address and as a result a CCJ is issued.
But the CCJ doesn't affect me doing business except in England & Wales or perhaps the entire UK so it's not something that I need to worry about.
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I've got a England & Wales CCJ against me, I acquired it because my ex bank were addressing letters to a wrong address, that I never received, then they took court action against me, to the wrong address also, I mean I knew nothing about this until years later when I came to sell a property that I owned to learn that it had a marker against it.
The courts can be farcicle, the debt collector goes to court, feeds them full of bull, and a CCJ gets issued, from what I've read in the past this JU has been using a variety of addresses, it could be as simple that, like me, a debt collector has been writing to the wrong address and as a result a CCJ is issued.
But the CCJ doesn't affect me doing business except in England & Wales or perhaps the entire UK so it's not something that I need to worry about.
The courts can be farcicle, the debt collector goes to court, feeds them full of bull, and a CCJ gets issued, from what I've read in the past this JU has been using a variety of addresses, it could be as simple that, like me, a debt collector has been writing to the wrong address and as a result a CCJ is issued.
But the CCJ doesn't affect me doing business except in England & Wales or perhaps the entire UK so it's not something that I need to worry about.
This on the other hand is a corporate CCJ, which is in itself a slightly different kettle of fish. The point I'm getting at here - seeing that the amount is so small - it is one thing to blurt rubbish all over social media and through the odd blog and fantasy website... it's another thing (in fact it is quite simply fraud) to start entering into business contracts and/or take money on the proviso of something happening (otherwise known as deception).
It's a whole different thing for JU in this position. It is actually real, and actually serious that a business he registered at companies house to give himself the sense of legitimacy for his fantasy idea, has now gained real-world debt. Regardless of it being only £500, someone somewhere is currently £500 out of pocket on a lie.
That, frankly, is where this goes from something humorous and entertaining to poke a bit of fun at, to being really rather concerning.
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someone somewhere is currently £500 out of pocket on a lie
Wonder how much else he has on the creditor's side that hasn't attracted a CCJ (yet)? Does he owe Intelisys I wonder, I've never known a CRS supplier that didn't demand a cheque on contract signature - and that would be sharply more than £500....
Harry, I think he would be very hard pushed to argue that they have his address wrong; he's always used Grandpa's place in Essex or the place in Romford.
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The point I made previously though - as he and, I assume, his grandmother(?) are listed as directors - is she aware of the CCJ against the company and the possible ramifications of it? I'd be inclined to suggest most likely not.
But again, coming back to the subject in hand, for a registered company that has no assets or cash on hand, and to now be 4 times its issued share capital in debt, really does speak volumes of this whole sorry saga. The concern as I stated before, is that its gone from pretty harmless social media/online fantasy, to now being something rather more serious, particularly from the point of view that someone somewhere is owed money and was likely deceived into parting with a service/product in the first place.
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Companies House like to go after the directors personally
The concern as I stated before, is that its gone from pretty harmless social media/online fantasy, to now being something rather more serious
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Oh absolutely Harry Wayfarers, personal CCJ's are an area of civil law in England & Wales that certainly needs addressing.
This on the other hand is a corporate CCJ, which is in itself a slightly different kettle of fish. The point I'm getting at here - seeing that the amount is so small - it is one thing to blurt rubbish all over social media and through the odd blog and fantasy website... it's another thing (in fact it is quite simply fraud) to start entering into business contracts and/or take money on the proviso of something happening (otherwise known as deception).
It's a whole different thing for JU in this position. It is actually real, and actually serious that a business he registered at companies house to give himself the sense of legitimacy for his fantasy idea, has now gained real-world debt. Regardless of it being only £500, someone somewhere is currently £500 out of pocket on a lie.
That, frankly, is where this goes from something humorous and entertaining to poke a bit of fun at, to being really rather concerning.
This on the other hand is a corporate CCJ, which is in itself a slightly different kettle of fish. The point I'm getting at here - seeing that the amount is so small - it is one thing to blurt rubbish all over social media and through the odd blog and fantasy website... it's another thing (in fact it is quite simply fraud) to start entering into business contracts and/or take money on the proviso of something happening (otherwise known as deception).
It's a whole different thing for JU in this position. It is actually real, and actually serious that a business he registered at companies house to give himself the sense of legitimacy for his fantasy idea, has now gained real-world debt. Regardless of it being only £500, someone somewhere is currently £500 out of pocket on a lie.
That, frankly, is where this goes from something humorous and entertaining to poke a bit of fun at, to being really rather concerning.
The police claimed to have done a search on my company and I was the 100% shareholder, "it's dormant you idiots" I replied, that my trading business was offshore and they couldn't search that whilst, if I recall correctly, nobody could make a claim against or take my dormant business to court because it wasn't trading having registered it just to reserve the business identity.
So if JU's business is dormant, not trading, then why on god's earth would people be in a position to make monetary claims against it and would the CC that issued the J even be aware that it was doirmant?
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It legally automatically ceases to be dormant once it conducts business, regardless of its declarations to CH. It would be expected that in the next company return, the business that has been transacted in the period would be recorded be it expenditure or income and profit or loss.
If I was to take a claim against JU, it would be very easy to prove that the company isn't dormant, by simply producing social media posts of letters claiming to be "Expressions of Interest" sent to the liquidators of Jet Airways and the many other claims that have been made. We all know they are fantasy, but they would be enough to prove a dormant company isn't dormant - but in fact, actively trading.
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A business is only dormant on the declaration of its directors in an annual (or extra-ordinary) return to CH.
It legally automatically ceases to be dormant once it conducts business, regardless of its declarations to CH. It would be expected that in the next company return, the business that has been transacted in the period would be recorded be it expenditure or income and profit or loss.
If I was to take a claim against JU, it would be very easy to prove that the company isn't dormant, by simply producing social media posts of letters claiming to be "Expressions of Interest" sent to the liquidators of Jet Airways and the many other claims that have been made. We all know they are fantasy, but they would be enough to prove a dormant company isn't dormant - but in fact, actively trading.
It legally automatically ceases to be dormant once it conducts business, regardless of its declarations to CH. It would be expected that in the next company return, the business that has been transacted in the period would be recorded be it expenditure or income and profit or loss.
If I was to take a claim against JU, it would be very easy to prove that the company isn't dormant, by simply producing social media posts of letters claiming to be "Expressions of Interest" sent to the liquidators of Jet Airways and the many other claims that have been made. We all know they are fantasy, but they would be enough to prove a dormant company isn't dormant - but in fact, actively trading.
I note that this thread is titled with a company name ending in 'UK', my offshore company was trading from Belize and ended in 'Limited' but I could have called it 'UK' or whatever I wanted to, despite it stating on my then company website that it was registered in England & Wales and Belize if I managed to confuse the UK police as to which company was trading ... OK, the police weren't so clever but I get the impression that JU isn't so clever either!
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I think he’d find it hard to argue his company is dormant - read back on here and he has been loosing off all sorts of letters, EoI, MoU, you name it, all in the name of the business.
He does, despite the myriad variations of Atmosphere Intercontinental xxxx (replace xxxx with the name of almost any country or airline function you can think of) seem to have only one corporate entity, the UK one (‘registered as an airline with Companies House and Downing Street’. I kid you not).
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He does, despite the myriad variations of Atmosphere Intercontinental xxxx (replace xxxx with the name of almost any country or airline function you can think of) seem to have only one corporate entity, the UK one (‘registered as an airline with Companies House and Downing Street’. I kid you not).
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I've not seen any reference anywhere to Atmosphere earning revenue from any customers, in fact the very idea is laughable.
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A business owner could chat away on social media trying to drum up bisiness for his company, he could be chatting with guys down the pub, he could be standing on the street with sandwich boards, but until such time as that company generates some business I'd suggest that it remains as declared dormant.